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The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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So even the article says the main reason they can't hire good hackers is that the can't offer reasonable compensation, long term career prospects etc. But het, much easier to blame those hackers for smoking pot. This is just a stupid excuse for why he is not doing his job effectively.

Where does it say there are no long term career prospects? Or 'reasonable' compensation? It just says "they can find more lucrative deals". You seem to be projecting something onto the article that isn't there.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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> or associate with anyone who does No wonder they're having problems finding candidates. Hackers are probably way more likely to use certain drugs like weed, MDMA and psychedelics than the general population, due to their intellectual curiosity and intelligence levels (which I assume are significantly higher than the average). Do they really force applicants to disassociate with their friends and family, like in Sci…

Well, they make everyone sign the papers, and they frequently polygraph. It's risky to get a clearance if you are breaking the rules. You'd have to keep your story straight, and have the ability to defeat test anxiety. Maybe that's a good process if you are trying to find a good spy. Not very good for recruiting a hacker. I hear they bend the rules for extraordinary candidates - maybe that applies to all hackers thes…

Using a broken lie detection methodology? Is that even legal?

Polygraph evidence is not admissible in US courts anymore.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Stupid requirements lead to poor hiring. It's the government's own fault. I always wonder how much of their workforce a company like Google would have to fire if they drug tested.

An agency whose reason for existing is enforcing the law can't really be expected to flout the law with its own personnel. It's not like the FBI itself legislated against marijuana.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #34
post #3

Stupid requirements lead to poor hiring. It's the government's own fault. I always wonder how much of their workforce a company like Google would have to fire if they drug tested.

An agency whose reason for existing is enforcing the law can't really be expected to flout the law with its own personnel. It's not like the FBI itself legislated against marijuana.

They don't really have to do drug tests though. Should they for example install monitoring in employees cars to make sure they never speed?

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to agree with you re: Whistleblowers & COINTELPRO, but was Clinton criminally negligent or just "Best practices were not adhered to" negligent? My impression from Comey's statements are the latter. Asking this genuinely, since I didn't read far into the story beyond said statements.

The email thing is just a conservative smoke smear. Reading the FBI investigation files makes that extremely clear... and obvious why she wasn't charged: no crime was committed. She even went so far as to avoid Colin Powel's advice on how to hide her emails from FOIA requests.

Using BleachBit on servers, smashing devices with hammers to destroy hard drives, and straight up losing dozens of devices with classified information on them? At best its got some real subpar optics, and even being charitable and assuming no ill intent, it looks bumbling and incompetent.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #32
post #5

So even the article says the main reason they can't hire good hackers is that the can't offer reasonable compensation, long term career prospects etc. But het, much easier to blame those hackers for smoking pot. This is just a stupid excuse for why he is not doing his job effectively.

Where does it say there are no long term career prospects? Or 'reasonable' compensation? It just says "they can find more lucrative deals". You seem to be projecting something onto the article that isn't there.

Just before where you found that quote the text is a link to another article that talks about those things.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #27
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Stupid requirements lead to poor hiring. It's the government's own fault. I always wonder how much of their workforce a company like Google would have to fire if they drug tested.

Honestly, with all the big tech companies in SV that would be anywhere from 20-30% IME. And many of them would be among the best people at those companies. I can't imagine a better way to needlessly drive away good people than to have a zero-tolerance policy for weed. It's crazy that any employer still cares about this, as long as people are getting their work done and aren't using it on the job.

This is why very few companies care.
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