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You could have inherited $1m five years ago, though.
The data in Norway does not only include your income but also your fortune.
Cash in an account is fairly easy…but stocks and shares? Property assets? Cars/boats/aircraft? Furniture? Art? Intangible assets such as patents or licences?
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From my experience, this is one case where both sides are entrenched and refuse to accept the logic of the other side. Same as the "prices should be stated with taxes included or not" debate. Good luck with that in the US. And with the metric system. And in other countries, driving on the left side of the road. It's culture, not logic.
> prices should be stated with taxes included or not In the US, sales tax differs wildly from state to state, and even from city to city. If you always had to include tax, you couldn't have any TV commercials where a company boasts about their price on something they sell, because it would be impossible to know how high the sales tax would be for every person watching. Places where tax always has to be included usual…
I will just notice it somehow isn't a problem in the EU, where taxes differ wildly.
Hence, culture.
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Personally, (I'm less than 25) I make about 75% of my income from the company I work at, the other 25% doing odd jobs, websites, etc. That latter percentage is probably increasing every month too. I can't imagine the company I work at being super excited I'm (for example) doing code reviews; or running a website. Technically, I don't have a clause in my contract forbidding me from doing external work, so long as I gi…
Why do you feel justified in assuming what your company would think? And how do you justify working at such a place with the kind of corporate moral code that would punish employees for behavior not defined in the employment contract? There are plenty of scenarios in which an employer believes that they deserve to know how their employee conducts themselves outside of work, including other jobs, and in those scenario…
I've worked for a few organisations where the contract has included clauses on exclusivity and IP assignment.
Each time I've asked for those clauses to be removed before joining them, and each time they've agreed.
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Well, it's a different culture here in Scandinavia. Personally, I couldn't care less if anyone wanted to look up my salary - whether it is a recruiter or someone else. I have my own valuation of my time and skills and if a potential employer can't meet that, there's someone else who will. Having this mindset will help sift out companies that you probably wouldn't want to work for in the first place.
But it reduces your ability to negotiate its also acts to keep the lower orders in their place as an atypical candidate my have started out at a lower salary and so be les likely to progress to the same level as some one born with a silver spoon in their mouth
It can also increase your ability to negotiate: "This person does the same job as me. That work is value at $X, so I should also be paid $X."
This is a serious transgression of privacy and human rights. There is utterly no reason why most people should not most other people's income. Unless they are public reps, or have government dealings - or there is some kind of 'public good' - than this is basically an abuse of human rights. Why not make people's bank account statements or health records public?
I don't see human rights coming down either side of the argument here. It's about what type of society you want to live in. Scandinavia tend to want to identify as a more social culture whereas others will want an individual based society. I think the one word someone from the outside should take with them about Scandinavia is "relax". Most things like these matter less than you think.
Article 12 [1] begins "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy"
I don't agree that publishing income is a breach of human rights, but I can see how people would argue that point.
[1] http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
Norway is no different from all rich oil-producing countries. Just selling oil is not that hard, but what will happen when Norway run out of oil?
Do other oil-producing countries usually do that? I've not heard that said about Saudi Arabia, for example.
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The data in Norway does not only include your income but also your fortune.
How is that calculated? Cash in an account is fairly easy…but stocks and shares? Property assets? Cars/boats/aircraft? Furniture? Art? Intangible assets such as patents or licences?
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Because by default, all government data is public. How much you pay in taxes is contained in government data. That's great for transparency, researchers and journalists and makes corruption much harder to get away with. Only when there is a compelling reason to keep the data secret which outweighs the public interest (such as the identity of a rape victim) is the data kept secret. People being embarrassed by people f…
> That's great for transparency, researchers and journalists and makes corruption much harder to get away with. So, I think in this case, "transparency", "researchers" and "journalists" are all highly irrelevant. 1. Journalists shouldn't write articles about how person X makes €Xm a year. The friend of my cousins husband was abducted when he was a kid, because the press kept writing articles about how wealthy his fam…
Sweden, Norway, Iceland and Finland (don't know if Denmark applies this system) are all well-functioning societies. I would not be surprised if they are some of the world's most well-functioning places around (which is great for getting shit done, but not always fun and free). Ideas of what is right and wrong in other cultures (such as mainland europeans and americans wish for financial privacy) might not always apply in the culture up north. That's fine.
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I don't see human rights coming down either side of the argument here. It's about what type of society you want to live in. Scandinavia tend to want to identify as a more social culture whereas others will want an individual based society. I think the one word someone from the outside should take with them about Scandinavia is "relax". Most things like these matter less than you think.
> I don't see human rights coming down either side of the argument here. Article 12 [1] begins "No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy" I don't agree that publishing income is a breach of human rights, but I can see how people would argue that point. [1] http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
arbitrary: "based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system."
This is even more interesting when companies do it. There are many startups these days that are pushing radical transparency and you actually know what everyone makes in the company. I think this builds trust and frees people up from the anxiety of not knowing if they are getting screwed. The other thing is all high performing individuals in society, athletes, actors what have you, their salaries are know. This isn't…
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