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The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled or if they take you at your word once you're hired.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled…

Three years is kind of crazy. NSA, CIA, and other agencies it's one year.

FBI should have the easiest time finding hackers. Unlike the CIA and NSA, they have offices in almost every major city, but they don't seem to take advantage of that at all. They don't event list any tech/cyber/whatever roles here: https://apply.fbijobs.gov/

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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So even the article says the main reason they can't hire good hackers is that the can't offer reasonable compensation, long term career prospects etc. But het, much easier to blame those hackers for smoking pot.

This is just a stupid excuse for why he is not doing his job effectively.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #2

Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled…

Three years is kind of crazy. NSA, CIA, and other agencies it's one year. FBI should have the easiest time finding hackers. Unlike the CIA and NSA, they have offices in almost every major city, but they don't seem to take advantage of that at all. They don't event list any tech/cyber/whatever roles here: https://apply.fbijobs.gov/

False. NSA is definitely 10 years [1].

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Scope_Background_Invest...

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #2

Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled…

They are most likely randomly administered to all employees along with a regularly scheduled polygraph. That's the DoD's model.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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How about because those whom are skilled and ethical view a lot of the work that the government would use them for to be unethical and against the principles upon which their country is founded?

What if they feel that someone like Edward Snowden is a true patriot, for standing up and doing the correct thing in the most viable way offered to him?

Or maybe, after a lifetime of experiencing government bureaucracy in schools, they've seen how broken things can get there, and can't even begin to imagine how bad things can be in the areas with insufficient light to burn away the worst offenders?

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #2

Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled…

>I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled or if they take you at your word once you're hired.

If the FBI anything like the DOE it's random for the duration you have a clearance. Random polygraphs too which are much, much worse.

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