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There will always be a minimum age for everything. Simply because age is a positive number.
It's a non-negative number.
With probability 1, everybody has a positive age.
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And most employers don't care about those stated value adds. It is what it is.
A company that's a startup building an MVP for a consumer app might not care if its software ever works reliably, or will be maintainable in five years. But if you're a bank, or a big on-line retailer, or a company that sells enterprise software - a business where you or your customers push billions of dollars of business through a software system - you definitely do care.
> But if you're a bank, or a big on-line retailer, or a company that sells enterprise software - a business where you or your customers push billions of dollars of business through a software system - you definitely do care.
Funny, those companies have the least reliable, performant, and maintainable code.
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#63I don't see many old sysadmins in companies I've worked in. Even fewer older developers, I have a slight worry that this career path has an affinity for youth- which I won't have for much longer. So this is disheartening to read.
You have to understand that people like me (35 years experience) are rare not just because people don't hire us, but there were 100 times fewer programmers back then and many have switched to management or moved on since then too. What happens 35 years from now of course I have no idea, I doubt 100% of all people will be programmers. The key is staying at the leading edge of whatever you are doing which of course keeps getting harder as the width of programming gets wider. The thing I miss most is being able to do everything and not be so specialized.
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#64I'm a grey beard who applied to a company specifically advertising for young developers. Got the job without mentioning my vintage. That was six years ago and they still haven't seen my face. I waited a while to gently break the news to them. If you're a technological senior citizen remote work is your friend.
How did they "specifically advertise for young developers" without running afoul of age discrimination laws?
Enforcement is, uh, spotty. But the regulatory environment is enough to give applicants an advantage in this situation. Interviewers know they're ignorant of complex shifting rules, so are afraid to ask anything personal that isn't also spinnably vague.
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#65This is a world where job posts for "Senior Engineer" ask for three years of experience.
And job posts for "Junior Engineers" somehow ask for the same three years of experience.
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#66I don't see many old sysadmins in companies I've worked in. Even fewer older developers, I have a slight worry that this career path has an affinity for youth- which I won't have for much longer. So this is disheartening to read.
People working in tech also tend to retire early or start doing their own thing due to their salary.
Not true outside of the Valley and other niche fields, like finance, and even in those places it isn't that often that folks retire early. The average salaries for developers tend to be higher across the board, but not "retire by 40 or even 50" higher.
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I am sorry, but what is wrong with having video games in the office? At both my previous companies I played games time to time, with co-workers. 15 mins of playing Fifa with a co-worker end s up both relaxing, and productive as you both bond and hash out things, and often much better than boring meeting. I am 35 btw. Also, our CEO regularly played as well. I have been at an office/environment (Amazon), with cubicles,…
It's not the video games themselves. It's the culture. It's a way to keep young employees in the office longer. It's not uncommon for these places to have people roll in around 10am and stay until 10pm. That's not a place I want to work at, and I'm not even 30 yet. But you can bet your life savings on a company firing anyone for not playing this game. That's why I won't work for a place with videogames.
That's complete bullshit, I work for one of those company that happens to have video games around. Not everyone play, but after work, we sometimes get around and play for a couple of hours and we just have so much fun that we end up going home late. What's wrong with that?
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#69I don't see many old sysadmins in companies I've worked in. Even fewer older developers, I have a slight worry that this career path has an affinity for youth- which I won't have for much longer. So this is disheartening to read.
Any company which allows it's employees to discriminate on age isn't worth your time spent being sad about not working there.
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#70I think it is ridiculous that we have a minimum age for presidency but no max. age.
There should at least be maximum age limits for the supreme court. Pushing people to retain their positions despite entering positions where mental faculties are degenerating for entirely political ends is a horrific outcome.
For comparison, judges of the UK supreme court resign at 70/75. Australian judges resign at 70. Canadian judges resign at 75. If the US had rules similar to any of these countries, there would currently be 4 vacancies on the court.