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Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by Nothorized »

rhizome wrote: post #66
ams6110 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My son deleted all his accounts when he graduated from high school. Said he was sick of it all and wanted to start off college without it.

Did he create new or other ones after he arrived at college?

I did the same than him, and I had to recreate a facebook account. Reason n°1 were for group project : 90% of the people seems to have forgotten how email is working Reason n°2 were for the associations i am part of.

But I definitely missed last year (scholastically), and i feel that all the social network are addictive, so I am trying to avoid them (I only use Facebook through Messenger, I don't have Twitter, but it never took off in my country, Snapchat). I also don't use Youtube, because it is for me the television of the 21st century.

I am going back to college in 2 weeks, and I am slowly deleting all of my last online accounts.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by superuser2 »

mbreedlove wrote: post #21
meira wrote: post #4

The one you aren't going see in WSJ: teens who say no to Paywall

I'm really starting to think sites with paywalls should be banned from HN. ATM, this is #11 and I can't read it. I know you can do that google redirect thing that removes the paywall, but I'm really not that interested in reading the NYT anyways, even without having to jump through hoops.

> I'm really not that interested in reading the NYT

Then don't. By its position at #11, many of us are, and are willing to fund journalism.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by greenyoda »

paulpauper wrote: post #48
mbreedlove wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really starting to think sites with paywalls should be banned from HN. ATM, this is #11 and I can't read it. I know you can do that google redirect thing that removes the paywall, but I'm really not that interested in reading the NYT anyways, even without having to jump through hoops.

flag it

Flagging is not intended to be used for downvoting - if you do that, you'll eventually get your flagging privileges revoked by the moderators.

Flagging should be used for off-topic content, spam, duplicate submissions, etc. The moderators have repeatedly stated that posting paywalled articles that work with the "web" link is OK.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by pjlegato »

soufron wrote: post #15
maffeis wrote: post #10

Social media are tools, and a tool is as good/bad as the use we make of it, we should never forget.

Nope, tools also have a meaning by themselves.

A tool -- a knife, say -- is merely a chunk of inert metal. It has no inherent meaning whatsoever.

It is meaningful only insofar as it is placed into a social context. Any meaning is in the observers' minds, not in the tool itself.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by mk89 »

rdiddly wrote: post #63
mk89 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the meaning of a knife, then?

I get your point, I think - a knife's "nature" if it has one, depends on its use. But a knife is an example of a simple tool with many purposes. What about a complicated, specialized tool built for only one or two purposes? Worse yet, what about a complicated tool serving multiple people's divergent and conflicting purposes?

Like a swiss knife? :)

Oh I see your point, and I also dislike certain tools that, despite their possible wide set of functionalities, still don't convince me. Facebook is definitely one of them.

However, my question was more generic because social media themselves are not bad. HN is also a social media, after all. Of course, when you give all your data to someone, well, you take some risks. I just don't like the idea that one tool is "just" bad. Facebook, more specifically, offers many features, and some of these are really interesting to me, less to somebody else, yet there are other "things" which don't convince me too much.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by majewsky »

newscracker wrote: post #62
hourislate wrote: post #41

Having trouble getting the article in its entirety but I don't allow my kids to use facebook or any other of the other social media services. I want them to have some level of privacy for as long as they can. They can txt, call or meet their friends. They don't need facebook to do that. Some great info on the subject can be found in "Future Crimes" - Marc Goodman . Everyone should give it a read. An excerpt from the…

> Advertisers know every last intimate detail about a Facebook user’s life and can thus market to him or her with extreme precision based upon the social graph Facebook has generated. > … > Your friends see that you support their message, but what neither of you see is what happens with the data generated with each and every Like—data that are captured, dissected, and sold to marketers and data brokers around the wor…

Here, have another bottle of fresh, ice-cooled Kool-Aid.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Post by CM30 »

As someone who's run a few forums aimed at younger audiences, I've seen quite a few teens and kids who don't seem to care very much about social services or what not. In fact, quite a few people on niche forums seem to outright despite sites like Facebook, Twitter, etc.

There's a similar group on more 'anonymous' social media services, like Reddit and Tumblr.

The distinction there is likely between people who prefer spending their time online talking to people they already know offline via social media, and those who spend more of time discussing specific subjects with people on the other side of the planet.

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