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Teens Who Say No to Social Media

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Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#53
post #10

Social media are tools, and a tool is as good/bad as the use we make of it, we should never forget.

If that's the case, I have to wonder who "we" is for social media--advertisers, people communicating through it, share holders, or some combination thereof?

I'd say the latter one: we are all in this together, one way or another.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#54
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really starting to think sites with paywalls should be banned from HN. ATM, this is #11 and I can't read it. I know you can do that google redirect thing that removes the paywall, but I'm really not that interested in reading the NYT anyways, even without having to jump through hoops.

-- Annoyed about not being able to read an article. -- Have a straightforward way to read the article (that's even automated by HN's [web] link). -- Decide can't be bothered to read the article after all. -- Pipe up and moan to everyone in the virtual train carriage about the article's website. ASSESSMENT: Waste of attention! Just another mutation of bikeshedding.

> -- Have a straightforward way to read the article (that's even automated by HN's [web] link).

That's not obvious. I had no idea what the "web" link did until you mentioned it.

You could have easily just pointed that out rather than berating me. You're not helping to build the community.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#56
I recently did a bunch of user interviews for a project - the results surprised me.

No one I spoke to under 20 used Facebook or Twitter. Instagram and Snapchat ruled completely.

Their opinions of Facebook were that there were too many ads, it was too text heavy, and it showed what others were interested in - they weren't interested in that.

For everyone over 40, Facebook was basically the entire internet, both professionally and personally.

Small sample size I know, but it made me wonder whether Facebook will soon have a serious demographic problem - and made the WhatsApp and instagram purchases look smart.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#57
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

-- Annoyed about not being able to read an article. -- Have a straightforward way to read the article (that's even automated by HN's [web] link). -- Decide can't be bothered to read the article after all. -- Pipe up and moan to everyone in the virtual train carriage about the article's website. ASSESSMENT: Waste of attention! Just another mutation of bikeshedding.

> -- Have a straightforward way to read the article (that's even automated by HN's [web] link). That's not obvious. I had no idea what the "web" link did until you mentioned it. You could have easily just pointed that out rather than berating me. You're not helping to build the community.

You said you already knew about the Google route. That's all that link is.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#58

I was in school when msn and facebook were big. I lived in the same town as the school, which was a twenty minute drive from the village most of my friends lived in. They eventually forced me to use Facebook, and it changed my social life drastically. The communication benefit group chats gave me was phenomenal. Nowadays facebook lets me organise my climbing life, and makes a handy contact book for acquaintances. I'm…

> The great failing of social media is that it doesn't help you make friends. Its very much for Mrs Bucket Hmm. You'd be surprised...

You can't just leave us hanging!

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#59
post #30

Does anyone have a link that bypasses the paywall? Even Google doesn't show the full article.

Click on the little "web" link at the top of this page (it's on the same line that says "96 points by prostoalex"). Then open Google's link to the article in an incognito window.

That works every time for me.

Re: Teens Who Say No to Social Media

#60
As a horse owner, I see teens who don't use phones very much. They all have smartphones, and some even have riding breeches (traditionally pocketless) with smartphone pockets on the thigh. They make and receive calls, and they text, but they don't use their phones much unless communicating. They talk to each other, the adults, and the horses. It's the total opposite of the nearby Starbucks near the high school, which is full of teens quietly looking at screens.

Some of this is situational awareness. Everyone who spends a lot of time around horses is very aware of what's moving around them. You have to be, with thousand pound animals capable of moving fast all around you. Giving all your attention to a small screen is dangerous. Horse kids don't do that.

Some of the inattention may be an overparenting thing. There are kids who seem to have no sense of self-preservation or threat awareness. They've never been in a situation where they had to look out for themselves. I've seen this at barns when non-horse kids visit. They don't even notice the huge animals moving around them and get in the way. That's just dangerous. Send your kids to a horse barn, or dance class, or martial arts, or a bad neighborhood, so they get some survival skills.

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