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#3It seems pretty clear that this is more about a clique that is attacking Mr Crockford in order to obtain more power for themselves.
They can now say - "Hey - you have to listen to us! We Matter! Look at what we forced the Nodevember people to do. We're a moral authority!".
To go from complaining about a lack of diversity, to basically saying 'you screwed up and now need to prove your love to us by uninviting this JS superstar'. It's like the stereotypical abusive boy/girl friend requiring their lover to do something they normally wouldn't do to prove their love.
It's simple bullying, really.
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#4This is the dumbest article I've ever read. I feel like this isn't about Crockford, this is about being able to police people.
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#5I'm trying to imagine an alternative timeline in which Nodevember, after having announced Crockford as a speaker and then receiving pushback on Twitter, privately discusses things with Crockford and mutually agree that they should part ways, but come up with a plausible explanation that would minimize the loss of face for both parties.
(for the sake of argument, let's say we agree that conferences have the unilateral right to invite and reject whomever they want for any reason that doesn't violate current federal laws)
1) What would that public and plausible explanation be? e.g. "Due to scheduling conflicts, we regret to say that Mr. Crockford cannot give the keynote speech but will be attending etc.etc."
2) How much time would it take (in days) to plan and then move on this?
3) Is Crockford the type to take this graciously and quietly and, even though he's justified in feeling wronged, doesn't feel the need to retaliate now or in the future?
edit: I think that Nodevember can do what it wants, but that it seriously fucked up for not vetting Mr. Crockford before inviting him and then really fucked up by throwing him under the bus. But that's been thoroughly discussed in last night's thread
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#6He said a few things that feel like promoting a non inclusive environment. Which is bad, especially from someone like him, because many people look up to him and probably think it is okay to say such things.
Edit: Also interesting that the HN crowd always confirms the accusations they receive.
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#7Mr. Straw is part of the problem, imo.
There's a lawful vs chaotic dichotomy going on - Mr. Straw started out lawful conservative, but then found out about a different set of laws he could leverage into a position of power.
It's a similar but different power leverage being exercised elsewhere by a new generation. Feeling excluded by more usual measures like achievement or talent, they've taken to using social taboos and bullying to gain power.
It's vaguely annoying to watch, but it's best ignored. The very lack of talent that people who use social manoeuvres to get to the top means the groups they dominate won't be very important or effective, unless it's law making directly. I'll get worried then. I'm fairly sanguine about node.js conferences.
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#8One of my consulting projects includes doing programming for a relatively big millenials-dominated site. Users on that site know exactly what cards to play in what order to get people on staff and/or affiliates fired - it's Crybullying all the way. It doesn't even matter if the claims made are true or not, just the proclamation of being hurt or oppressed is sufficient. The site owners ultimately making these decisions do so because they live in absolute terror of what these people could do if they turned against the site itself or them personally.
We now live in a world where anything is done to appease you if you only cry loud enough. It always used to be the case in personal conflicts that whoever was better at mud slinging had a significant hand up as compared to someone who's less talented, but in combination with the new fad of Crybullying, this is a devastating tactic.
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#9Crockford did nothing wrong. Fuck Nodevember. If you have huevos or egos or whatever, don't support that conference. He is one of those guys that will email you back if you have a technical question. I know because he already did twice to me. Who can say that about someone so influential?
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#10Crockford did nothing wrong. Fuck Nodevember. If you have huevos or egos or whatever, don't support that conference. He is one of those guys that will email you back if you have a technical question. I know because he already did twice to me. Who can say that about someone so influential?
What's the hash tag for that? #fuck_nodevember