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Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

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Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

#11

The knuckle-draggers who voted to leave the EU won't care about threats like this - they'll just use hate speech to dismiss it. Downvote me by all means :)

I won't downvote you but I will question your choice of terms. You do realise there were rational arguments for wanting to leave the EU? It wasn't all about racism.

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post #2

No way that the EU is going to remove the UK from its single market; the rest of EU is far too dependent on demand from the UK economy.

I think that the EU will. The UK economy is a significant part of the EU economy but the interests of continental governments are now aligned against the UK. They are basically all thinking what can we get out of the UK, their horsetrading has started and the UK has a lot less horses to trade. There are just to many people the UK has to please at once to make the exit smooth for the UK.

But for the next 2.5 years you wont really see it. In 2.5 years the crisis will start. Just like the Swiss are only now starting to sweat.

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post #8

It's really incredible that three months after the vote, we still haven't the slightest idea what post-Brexit UK will look like. Will they go for the EEA (the least destructive option), or will they - as Theresa May threatens - sacrifice everything just to limit immigration? Three months after the biggest decision in decades, and the subject is barely even being talked about seriously in the UK. I don't understand it…

I think everyone in any position of power understands that they must remain in the single market - now the only question is how to position / sell this to the electorate.

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

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post #8

It's really incredible that three months after the vote, we still haven't the slightest idea what post-Brexit UK will look like. Will they go for the EEA (the least destructive option), or will they - as Theresa May threatens - sacrifice everything just to limit immigration? Three months after the biggest decision in decades, and the subject is barely even being talked about seriously in the UK. I don't understand it…

Problem is the EEA option depends on 31 veto possibilities !!! what will the UK have to give up to avoid those vetos? Not every country in the EU does a lot of trade with the UK and those will want their pound of flesh, now that the UK has foolishly put it on the table.

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

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post #12
post #2

No way that the EU is going to remove the UK from its single market; the rest of EU is far too dependent on demand from the UK economy.

I think that the EU will. The UK economy is a significant part of the EU economy but the interests of continental governments are now aligned against the UK. They are basically all thinking what can we get out of the UK, their horsetrading has started and the UK has a lot less horses to trade. There are just to many people the UK has to please at once to make the exit smooth for the UK. But for the next 2.5 years you…

could you clarify what you mean about the swiss?

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

#16
post #8

It's really incredible that three months after the vote, we still haven't the slightest idea what post-Brexit UK will look like. Will they go for the EEA (the least destructive option), or will they - as Theresa May threatens - sacrifice everything just to limit immigration? Three months after the biggest decision in decades, and the subject is barely even being talked about seriously in the UK. I don't understand it…

It's not just to 'limit immigration'. It was also to no remove the decidedly unneeded layer of unchecked lawmakers who at any time can run wild and criminalize UK citizens, who then have no recourse.

Given that the UK economy is doing well, what is there to talk about? Most people are relieved to have that monkey off their back.

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

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post #2

No way that the EU is going to remove the UK from its single market; the rest of EU is far too dependent on demand from the UK economy.

Not at all. The UK is a 65 million population stagnant economy that derived most of its strength from the globalization it now wants to part from. It is likely to go to a 60 or 55 million population depressed economy in a few decades if Brexit really happens and foreigners and maybe Scotland leave. There are 450 million in the remaining Union and plenty of countries wanting to join.

EU's growth will come from enlargement and from increasing demand in Central and Eastern European member states.

EU will have to set an example and in the eyes of many Europeans the Brits must suffer from their foolish choice.

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

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post #8

It's really incredible that three months after the vote, we still haven't the slightest idea what post-Brexit UK will look like. Will they go for the EEA (the least destructive option), or will they - as Theresa May threatens - sacrifice everything just to limit immigration? Three months after the biggest decision in decades, and the subject is barely even being talked about seriously in the UK. I don't understand it…

There has been a flurry of activity behind the scenes.

Philip Hammond was recently in China [1] and discussed the possibility of trade agreements with them and other representatives of other countries who were also there.

Australia has already mentioned opening up trade agreements [2] with the UK as well.

There is even talk of trading with the common-wealth [3].

The point is this, things are moving forward. Just because it's not in the news. Which the majority it won't be until it's ready to be announced. Doesn't mean that nothing is happening.

Also I don't know how old you are. But before the UK entered the EC which it was known back then. The UK was trading with the entire world. Now, it has the possibility of accessing the EU market AND trading with the world. Which I think is a great prospect for the UK.

Edit: To address the downvotes. When the UK was trading within the EU. These trading agreements were done by the EU for all the member-states. They were negotiating as one trading block.

Now that the UK is out of the EU. She can trade speaking for herself, not having veto's by France or another country. Go look it up.

Also [4]: EU-US trade agreement fails. Now the UK is free to open up trade talks with the US.

[1] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36877573

[2] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/03/g20-theresa-may-i...

[3] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/a-bright-future-a...

[4] http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/704752/EU-USA-trade-deal...

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

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this "warning" was totally unnecessary and those kinds of acts go without saying anyway. Whoever wrote it up doesn't realize that this attempt at posturing makes them looks weak rather than strong.

I wouldn't say that this was a move to make them look strong. Its a plain reminder to British decision makers as well as people that there will be economic consequences if they decide to leave the single market. This is not a threat - pure and simple, companies that operate from the UK now will have a harder time post-exit.

Re: Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

#20

The knuckle-draggers who voted to leave the EU won't care about threats like this - they'll just use hate speech to dismiss it. Downvote me by all means :)

I won't downvote you but I will question your choice of terms. You do realise there were rational arguments for wanting to leave the EU? It wasn't all about racism.

It wasn't about 'racism' at all. That is just what remainers wanted to get out as their media message because it's a typical leftist strategy.
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