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Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

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Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#11
OK - I was confused by this. Apparently the context is:

> https://twitter.com/nexxylove/status/771503406716334080

> @nodevember one way you could show you actually care about community safety & diversity is by uninviting Douglas Crockford.

> @nodevember he has repeatedly shown himself to be actively hostile to fostering inclusivity and many will decline to speak if he is invited.

> https://twitter.com/nodebotanist/status/512891046192504832

> Did Doug Crockford seriously just say on stage that no one wants to use weak maps because weak isn't masculine? What? I don't even...

To which the twitter has reacted poorly and has escalated.

Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#12
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Has he done anything?

https://medium.com/@nodebotanist/why-i-won-t-be-speaking-at-... https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/699663365661065216 https://medium.com/@kassandra_perch/why-i-won-t-be-speaking-... Basically, people think he's an asshole.

So some peoples fee-fees got hurt and they whined on twitter, got it.

Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#13
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Has he done anything?

https://medium.com/@nodebotanist/why-i-won-t-be-speaking-at-... https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/699663365661065216 https://medium.com/@kassandra_perch/why-i-won-t-be-speaking-... Basically, people think he's an asshole.

Just to note, your first and third links are the same article under two different aliases. So it is two people who have publicly declared this. Though there may be more who have unspoken dislike of the man.

I can certainly imagine myself to be drawn to a conference where Douglas Crockford was speaking (in fact, I'd be likely to attend if he were the only speaker), but having "lightly googled" the other two I'm not sure their contributions to the community would be enough to draw me in to the talk.

Which is fine I guess. My opinion is worth what it cost and the conference organisers can do what they want.

I really hope this doesn't blow up into some sort of "DongleGate" or anything of the sort. I just don't fucking care and would very much prefer it if every interesting headline wasn't drowned out for the next two weeks by "My opinion on Crockford-gate"

I don't want to read about the visceral stalking reaction that the above people got in response to their SJW-ing, or how SJW-ists are ruining the world. I don't wnat to hear about how "we can do better" by not uttering threats to people who don't want to hang out with Crockford. A don't want them to be threatened.... none of the anything that happens every time any of these issues poke their head up.

I'd love it if we could all just say "OK" and move on.

I'll keep an eye out for a conference that will invite Crockford, I'll skip Nodevember (which being in tenessee I wasn't going to anyways, but the same theory applies to this stuff when it is in Toronto).

Anyways - obviously I'm already getting a bit "ranty" which I don't mean to but we've all seen this "outrage" thing so many times now. Are we smarter than the same old song and dance yet? Live and let live. They can uninvite him, the people who disagree can not go.

Everyone is happy and who knows? Maybe Crockford (if he cares) decides to moderate his behavior. Maybe he doesn't care. Up to him.

Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://medium.com/@nodebotanist/why-i-won-t-be-speaking-at-... https://twitter.com/nebrius/status/699663365661065216 https://medium.com/@kassandra_perch/why-i-won-t-be-speaking-... Basically, people think he's an asshole.

Just to note, your first and third links are the same article under two different aliases. So it is two people who have publicly declared this. Though there may be more who have unspoken dislike of the man. I can certainly imagine myself to be drawn to a conference where Douglas Crockford was speaking (in fact, I'd be likely to attend if he were the only speaker), but having "lightly googled" the other two I'm not su…

Also, the second link forwards to the third, so that makes this a single data point?

Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#17
post #14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to note, your first and third links are the same article under two different aliases. So it is two people who have publicly declared this. Though there may be more who have unspoken dislike of the man. I can certainly imagine myself to be drawn to a conference where Douglas Crockford was speaking (in fact, I'd be likely to attend if he were the only speaker), but having "lightly googled" the other two I'm not su…

Also, the second link forwards to the third, so that makes this a single data point?

Well... link #1 is a person saying "I won't present at a conference with Crockford because reasons"

#2 is someone saying "me neither, because these reasons"

I guess we could consider it "a woozle" but it does boil down to two people who have publicly stated they don't like Crockford.

Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#18
Is this going to get buried down on page 37 again because the comments contradict the feels brigade's self-image?

Edit: Fscking called it (http://sli.mg/HqLVu2). Just like LambdaConf. (https://twitter.com/antispamuel/status/719907750097129473). War is peace, excluding people is inclusivity and stomping out wrongthink is welcoming.

Re: Douglas Crockford Out as Keynote Speaker at Nodevember

#19
post #18

Is this going to get buried down on page 37 again because the comments contradict the feels brigade's self-image? Edit: Fscking called it ( http://sli.mg/HqLVu2 ). Just like LambdaConf. ( https://twitter.com/antispamuel/status/719907750097129473 ). War is peace, excluding people is inclusivity and stomping out wrongthink is welcoming.

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