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Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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If they aren't living there, why don't they just rent a lot of the houses out? I guess they don't need the money but that has always struck me as weird.

Because these houses are also safe retreats in case of upheaval in their home countries, and renters are occasionally hard to evict.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

#22
post #7

If only there was a way to make living within a city less important. There must be some way to move large numbers of people over "great distances" (50-100 miles) in a more commutable time.

Why would we want to? I grew up in the Chicago suburban sprawl, and it feels like a tremendous waste of land and infrastructure. I hope we one day figure out how to reduce humanity's physical footprint. Agriculture would obviously be the biggest thing, but compacting living space would help too.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vancouver recently enacted an anti foreign buyer tax that seems to have almost completely stopped the practice. Curious if we will start to see more and more of this local protionism.

Unless every desirable city introduces this tax uniformly, doesn't this just shift the burden from Vancouver onto other cities?

This is why it should go viral. Wealthy individuals/ buying houses in droves to sit empty does not benefit anyone in the long run.

What happens when the bubble pops?

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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post #5

In DC, there's a big glut in foreign capital flowing in from foreign oligarchs and elites, particularly from Russia and China. Residential properties in so-called "safe cities" are both a form of investment and a potential life-raft should the political situation change in their nations.In addition to the artificially low supply created by extreme height limitations, this has caused prices to skyrocket. The apartment…

The problem is much worse here in SV. Lots of all cash buyers from abroad. When I was house hunting last year every house we lost was won buy an all cash foreign buyer. I also know many families where this was also the case.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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post #5

In DC, there's a big glut in foreign capital flowing in from foreign oligarchs and elites, particularly from Russia and China. Residential properties in so-called "safe cities" are both a form of investment and a potential life-raft should the political situation change in their nations.In addition to the artificially low supply created by extreme height limitations, this has caused prices to skyrocket. The apartment…

I feel like there is a massive opportunity to be had here from managing and renting out these places.

People dumping hundreds of millions into the market just to hide it from external forces aren't interested in being landlords.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

#27

If they aren't living there, why don't they just rent a lot of the houses out? I guess they don't need the money but that has always struck me as weird.

I believe this is to not draw attention to the property. There was a Planet Money podcast a while ago about how high-end real estate is being used by foreigners to launder money. If the FBI catches wind, they have tools to seize the property and remunerate the proceeds.

I'm guessing that renting the property means involving the IRS and potentially their foreign counterparts in the person's home country, both of which could increase the likelihood of getting caught.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

#28
post #4

What bothers me is that price rises but those are the same crappy apartments. When a flat costs millions I'd expect it to be absolute marvel of modern technology.

Why do you think they're crappy?

I'm not sure what the price range under discussion is, but here are a few from Mayfair.

£11M, seems fancy: http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/40591729

This one seems to be in a new building, £32M: https://www.onthemarket.com/details/2192886/ (home automation, panic room, aquarium etc; would suit criminal mastermind...)

This is much cheaper, £2.6M: http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/41018778

If there's an out-of-date interior, it will be no trouble at all for the buyer to spend 1% of their purchase price on getting it redone.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

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post #7

If only there was a way to make living within a city less important. There must be some way to move large numbers of people over "great distances" (50-100 miles) in a more commutable time.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic. The buyers driving up prices don't live in London. From the article: "Today, 60 percent of properties for sale in this part of London go to international buyers."

I think his point is that if commutes were quicker then regular people could move away from the city but still work there. Billionaires could still sell real estate to each other then without hurting lower incomes.

Re: Even the Rich Are Being Priced Out of Central London

#30
post #7

If only there was a way to make living within a city less important. There must be some way to move large numbers of people over "great distances" (50-100 miles) in a more commutable time.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic. The buyers driving up prices don't live in London. From the article: "Today, 60 percent of properties for sale in this part of London go to international buyers."

Can't we solve this problem with virtualization? Build houses in the middle of nowhere, but assign a central London address.
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