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Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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aaaaauuuurrrrgh that's sound in principle but placing 301 on a domain like that is really, really bad.

Indeed, it should be 307 instead, just to keep the decision revertible.

As 'jacquesm points out, you may want to explicitly make the decision non-revertible in cases like this.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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Simplest instant solution: 301 every page about openoffice to a page about libreoffice.

aaaaauuuurrrrgh that's sound in principle but placing 301 on a domain like that is really, really bad.

301 redirects are the herpes of the Internet.

You make one mistake, and it's with you for the rest of eternity.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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It made a sense few years ago, now Libre Office has a brand of its own. I don't think having the ownership would be useful now.

OpenOffice still a much stronger brand outside of the Linux community. Basically all the non-technical people I know (including some very non-technical people like my father-in-law) know that OpenOffice is the free alternative for MS Office. I'll bet not one of them have heard of Libre Office.

I know some people using LibreOffice, because some technical friend or I installed it for them, and keep calling it OpenOffice even if they see the LibreOffice dialog every time it starts. I think it's a brand who's become the name of a product class, like Xerox in its heydays.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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I thought everyone interested in a FOSS office suite was using libreoffice.

Everybody is using LibreOffice, except a poor few that get misguided by search services to the Apache OpenOffice website. IMHO there is no sane reason why Apache OpenOffice still exists. Edit: Looks like there are a lot more OpenOffice users out there than I thought, sorry. I really thought the world would have moved on, at least since 2013/14, see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/St...

I'm using OpenOffice because Libreoffice for some inexplicable reason defaults to PDF for printing even though I constantly set it back to postscript. The PDF feature is broken and swallows umlauts forcing me to print everything at least twice.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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I thought everyone interested in a FOSS office suite was using libreoffice.

> libreoffice I hate that name. As a German I have no idea how to pronounce it and it's even harder for my non-techy friends. The name "Open office" has a very nice flow and everybody knows how to pronounce it, but "libre office"? They should have selected an easier name for that project.

Lee-Bray

Like Robert E. Lee and a donkey.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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Even in an American business context, "Libre" sounds stupid. Having it in the name hurts their popularity more than they know.

What connotation does "Libre" have in American English? (I'm French, to my ears it sounds perfectly reasonnable, if a bit "legalese")

Cuba Libre!

That is to say, latin american freedom.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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What connotation does "Libre" have in American English? (I'm French, to my ears it sounds perfectly reasonnable, if a bit "legalese")

I speak en-AU - I'm not sure what connotations "libre" has to most English speakers who haven't learned a Romance language or been involved in the Free Software world. "Libre" is not a common English word - I imagine to many English speakers you'd probably have to explain the shared etymology with "liberty" for people to get it. The French pronunciation is non-obvious to an English speaker.

"Liberty Office" would have been a much better English moniker.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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What connotation does "Libre" have in American English? (I'm French, to my ears it sounds perfectly reasonnable, if a bit "legalese")

I speak en-AU - I'm not sure what connotations "libre" has to most English speakers who haven't learned a Romance language or been involved in the Free Software world. "Libre" is not a common English word - I imagine to many English speakers you'd probably have to explain the shared etymology with "liberty" for people to get it. The French pronunciation is non-obvious to an English speaker.

"Liberty Office" would have been a much better English moniker.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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Could they drop openoffice, then rename libreoffice to openoffice? That would be fantastic

If LO gets the trademark, maybe make the name "OpenOffice" refer to "the stable channel of LibreOffice". Corporate IT and training would likely prefer an office suite that only gets feature-updates every 1-2 years. So make OpenOffice a very stable version that just gets bugfix updates, but then a big feature update every couple of years, ala MS Office.

And LibreOffice could remain for the rest of us who don't mind getting new features every month or so.

Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even in an American business context, "Libre" sounds stupid. Having it in the name hurts their popularity more than they know.

What connotation does "Libre" have in American English? (I'm French, to my ears it sounds perfectly reasonnable, if a bit "legalese")

Cuba libre, a cocktail.
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