Apache should never have accepted this hot potato from Oracle in the first place.
Nothing against hot potatoes, though. With butter.
Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
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Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#32I think the document foundation should get the brand, instant of Apache squatting. It's still far better known that libreoffice.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#33Simplest instant solution: 301 every page about openoffice to a page about libreoffice.
aaaaauuuurrrrgh that's sound in principle but placing 301 on a domain like that is really, really bad.
Agreed, but in this case those reasons actually make it more valid, because there will be no way for someone else to reverse the decision once it is made.
It closes the door on some zombie resurrection of openoffice and essentially cedes the identifier to libreoffice.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#34I thought everyone interested in a FOSS office suite was using libreoffice.
> libreoffice I hate that name. As a German I have no idea how to pronounce it and it's even harder for my non-techy friends. The name "Open office" has a very nice flow and everybody knows how to pronounce it, but "libre office"? They should have selected an easier name for that project.
At first I thought it was a pun on library names: lib-reoffice.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> libreoffice I hate that name. As a German I have no idea how to pronounce it and it's even harder for my non-techy friends. The name "Open office" has a very nice flow and everybody knows how to pronounce it, but "libre office"? They should have selected an easier name for that project.
It is just a name. Really problematic was that after Oracle did not wanted to continue the OpenOffice(.org) project, Apache accepted to take it over. That kept the website people knew up and help spread the false image that OpenOffice is an active project with serious people and development effort behind it.
There is rarely a name that is just a name. Names often have connotations that bring baggage with them.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#36I thought everyone interested in a FOSS office suite was using libreoffice.
Everybody is using LibreOffice, except a poor few that get misguided by search services to the Apache OpenOffice website. IMHO there is no sane reason why Apache OpenOffice still exists. Edit: Looks like there are a lot more OpenOffice users out there than I thought, sorry. I really thought the world would have moved on, at least since 2013/14, see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/St...
My father's been a happy Ubuntu user for years (and a fairly resentful one for a few more years --- he still misses the old GNOME user interface and loathes Unity). He mainly uses it for Gimp and LibreOffice.
When he had to switch from OpenOffice to LibreOffice he was pretty close to packing it all in and using something else; his argument was: why should he trust a package produced by an organisation that can't keep their own house in order?
That is, from the outside the schism between OpenOffice and LibreOffice is basically invisible; they're both considered to be the same thing, because they produce the same software. It's seen as an internal conflict, and it's a big reputational problem.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#37I thought everyone interested in a FOSS office suite was using libreoffice.
> libreoffice I hate that name. As a German I have no idea how to pronounce it and it's even harder for my non-techy friends. The name "Open office" has a very nice flow and everybody knows how to pronounce it, but "libre office"? They should have selected an easier name for that project.
German has lots of common French words pronounced (roughly) the French way, plus some more modern English loanwords of course. So you just combine them and speak three languages in one sentence :)
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#38Could they drop openoffice, then rename libreoffice to openoffice? That would be fantastic
This. Name natters. IME 90% of people I know who want to quickly look through a PowerPoint on Linux will install OpenOffice. Even when they hear that libre is the better version 80% of them would stay with oo as it is the "real" oo.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#39I think the document foundation should get the brand, instant of Apache squatting. It's still far better known that libreoffice.
Maybe Libre Office could take over the branding, making "0pen Libre Office" (OLO for short, not to be confused with LOL). That way even ppl searching for Open Office would find a good free Office suite.
Re: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Everybody is using LibreOffice, except a poor few that get misguided by search services to the Apache OpenOffice website. IMHO there is no sane reason why Apache OpenOffice still exists. Edit: Looks like there are a lot more OpenOffice users out there than I thought, sorry. I really thought the world would have moved on, at least since 2013/14, see https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/St...
My father's been a happy Ubuntu user for years (and a fairly resentful one for a few more years --- he still misses the old GNOME user interface and loathes Unity). He mainly uses it for Gimp and LibreOffice. When he had to switch from OpenOffice to LibreOffice he was pretty close to packing it all in and using something else; his argument was: why should he trust a package produced by an organisation that can't keep…
Has he tried Ubuntu MATE to get back the "old GNOME" style interface?