A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral

Post by Phlarp » Thu, Sep 01, 2016, 4:30 PM UTC

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They do the tests to validate that this rocket won't turn into a cruise missile, headed for the nearest residential area. Not an impossible scenario. Lots of energy stored up in one of those rockets. Just like when we test software, they want to have everything as close to what they would expect on launch day as possible (2 days from now). All the stresses, the structure, etc. That means putting stage 2 and the paylo…

Nitpick: you're thinking of a ballistic missile. Cruise missiles are more like exploding fixed-wing drones. The V-1 flying bomb was a cruise missile, and the V-2 rocket was a ballistic missile.

Post by tamana » Thu, Sep 01, 2016, 4:32 PM UTC

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You're advocating the Broken Window Fallacy. http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/broken-window-fal...

Not quite. The Broken Window Fallacy hinges on the fact that the son breaks the window for a reason that doesn't further any other economic cause. That is, he didn't break the window for research, so nothing new was gained from it. Resources were merely shifted from the shopkeeper to the glazier. When it comes to innovation, however, failure is often the impetus to more efficient design. Not only was that $200m shift…

Post by dogma1138 » Thu, Sep 01, 2016, 4:32 PM UTC

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It's a deal breaker most likely, the terms of the deal were based on AMOS-6 becoming operational by march 2017. There has been high level of criticism in Israel about the deal as many seen this as giving up it's sovereignty over its space platforms even tho under the deal the all operations of spacecom platforms would be still handled from Israel proper, I'm sure the r/conspiracies is already booming with sabotage th…

Won't they just relaunch in a few months? Not sure what the rebuild timeline is.

Post by wyager » Thu, Sep 01, 2016, 4:34 PM UTC

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Won't they just relaunch in a few months? Not sure what the rebuild timeline is.

It takes years to build a satellite, the bus, and every component is purposely built each component and the satellite itself goes through months of testing and even if they could build one within 6 months all of the contracts would expire by then which will require Spacecom to open the bids again. All of the contracts were based on AMOS-6 being operational by a given date, AMOS-6 has been "under construction" for pro…

Post by throwanem » Thu, Sep 01, 2016, 4:35 PM UTC

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> A $200 million loss there, which sucks for the insurance company but better than losing a $2b custom government bird. In fairness, when did the government last lose a bird? Doesn't the ULA have a '100%' success rate (where success is getting payload to space, though some payloads fail to make it to the planned orbit)

I suspect the $2b custom government bird refers to the space shuttle. Of which we have, in fact, lost more than one.