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Re: DDoS protection

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Post by corv »

nik736 wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany but Online.net is the way better alternative to Hetzner for me. Server grade hardware, cheaper, no compromises, internal network, etc. etc. I think they even hired a lot new support people recently so you get an answer pretty fast. Hetzner always has this "cheap feeling" even though the hardware looks good on paper.

Back when I tried them Online.net's international network was significantly worse than OVH.

Their support was responsive but ultimately unable to do anything.

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by latch »

StanAngeloff wrote: post #25

We used to run some basic infrastructure on Hetzner. The support was appalling – any requests for help were swiftly met with short answers such as "Unfortunately we can not help you here". That makes me question how responsive and understanding Hetzner's staff will be in case of an on-going DDoS that their automated systems are unable to detect and take care of. What sort of scenario would benefit from the announced…

What type of support issues? I had servers with hetzner for years and I never had any problems, which also means I never contacted support, so I can't say.

I'm trying to figure out if you were expecting support for things that most dedicated, colo and cloud providers wouldn't support (OS updates, install nginx, ....) or if these were clearly provider issues (hardware and network).

   > People are surely not running websites on commodity hardware.
Huh? That's been the growing trend for...decades? It feels like the two places where pure server-grade equipment is used, high end dedicated hosting and collocation, are losing market. I'd go as far as to say high-end dedicated hosting is flat out dying (yay!).

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by mysterydip »

nik736 wrote: post #29
lossolo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you need xx TB storage servers then you will not find any cheaper hardware + storage + network option in EU than in hetzner. I have storage servers there.

That's true, I agree. If you just need cheap storage Hetzner is probably the way to go. On the other hand, if you need 24x 1 TB SSD storage with a 10gbit RPN connection: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblcJ2pUUAAtbhK.jpg :-)

Are those R730XD's, or SC4020's? Can't tell from the pic. Either way, super cool!

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by dx034 »

nefariousoctopi wrote: post #40
nik736 wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany but Online.net is the way better alternative to Hetzner for me. Server grade hardware, cheaper, no compromises, internal network, etc. etc. I think they even hired a lot new support people recently so you get an answer pretty fast. Hetzner always has this "cheap feeling" even though the hardware looks good on paper.

Looks much better than Hetzner. What caught my eye is, if you scroll down long enough on dedicated servers page [1], you will eventually see GaaS - "Geek As A Service". This made me giggle far more than I am wiling to admit :) [1]: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server

I just compared both services to find a new VPS provider and decided in favour of Hetzner. Why do you think online.net looks better? My main problem with online was the poor IOPS performance due to non-local SSDs. But maybe my test was just on the wrong node?

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by nik736 »

mysterydip wrote: post #43
nik736 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true, I agree. If you just need cheap storage Hetzner is probably the way to go. On the other hand, if you need 24x 1 TB SSD storage with a 10gbit RPN connection: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CblcJ2pUUAAtbhK.jpg :-)

Are those R730XD's, or SC4020's? Can't tell from the pic. Either way, super cool!

Apparently R730(XD): https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-st24-ssd

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by easychris »

bogomipz wrote: post #17

Can someone from the EU or DE talk about where Hetzner sits reputation-wise for those not familiar with them. Are they a solid provider?

We run a SaaS business there on ~25 servers with Hetzner. Besides small issues we are pretty happy. Feel free to email me if you want to know more details.

Funnily I saw a thread on the customers forum at forum.hetzner.de today about why Hetzner does not have a better reputation social-media wise. Seems not to be on their priority list. There is even an English subforum, you may try to register there and ask for experience by other customers.

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by 921921031 »

jacquesm wrote: post #14
9191812919 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We all know nothing.

Novelty account making pretty outrageous claims about some large service provider but can't back it up. I'd not put too much stock in this, Hetzner isn't perfect but almost a full day of unscheduled downtime does not match my experience.

You are just like the loudest and most popular guy in the bar.

How do you propose to "back up" such a claim after 4-5 years without the Internet archive (which was mentioned there before the GP changed his post in response to your mud slinging)?

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by PolCPP »

nik736 wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany but Online.net is the way better alternative to Hetzner for me. Server grade hardware, cheaper, no compromises, internal network, etc. etc. I think they even hired a lot new support people recently so you get an answer pretty fast. Hetzner always has this "cheap feeling" even though the hardware looks good on paper.

Tbh it's been the oposite for me.

Had a few machines on hetzner for years and rarely had issues. The few issues i had with them i got fast replies.

I did try online.net few years ago and had a lot of network issues (it wasn't stable, kinda like when you have a misconfigured vps and your neighbour is eating all the bandwidth at times). Have they improved on that?

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by NKCSS »

nik736 wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany but Online.net is the way better alternative to Hetzner for me. Server grade hardware, cheaper, no compromises, internal network, etc. etc. I think they even hired a lot new support people recently so you get an answer pretty fast. Hetzner always has this "cheap feeling" even though the hardware looks good on paper.

Looked pretty good untill I saw the €30/mo for windows licensing :( I pay €7,50 for the same windows license @ TransIP; wonder why there is such a big difference (Windows 2012 R2 Standard)

Re: DDoS protection

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Post by corobo »

nefariousoctopi wrote: post #40
nik736 wrote: post #13

I'm from Germany but Online.net is the way better alternative to Hetzner for me. Server grade hardware, cheaper, no compromises, internal network, etc. etc. I think they even hired a lot new support people recently so you get an answer pretty fast. Hetzner always has this "cheap feeling" even though the hardware looks good on paper.

Looks much better than Hetzner. What caught my eye is, if you scroll down long enough on dedicated servers page [1], you will eventually see GaaS - "Geek As A Service". This made me giggle far more than I am wiling to admit :) [1]: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server

The one that completely solidified my love for Online.net was last April 1st. They had an additional option "Selfie - €0.00" when ordering a server

https://console.online.net/en/server/selfie/Al5dpTp6Awp3

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