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Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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I think that story is about another startup called Vingle. Vingle ( https://www.vingle.net/ ) Looks like Tess has been attaching herself to some bombs.

Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12395442.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12381368 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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I think that story is about another startup called Vingle. Vingle ( https://www.vingle.net/ ) Looks like Tess has been attaching herself to some bombs.

To be honest, she doesn't seem very talented, so she's just taking whatever she can get. In one of her personal blog posts, she said that she applied to 200 companies and got 3 responses - one of which was WrkRiot.

> To be honest, she doesn't seem very talented, so she's just taking whatever she can get

Even in a thread full of personal attacks, this stands out as one of the lowest and most vicious comments we've seen. I'm going to assume you did it thoughtlessly rather than maliciously, so instead of banning you, will ask you to stop and consider how malicious such thoughtlessness can be.

You didn't just kick someone when they were down; you dug up information about how down they are, and published it in order to kick them in front of others. That's a mob behavior, worse than many things people spent their day being indignant about in this thread. Please don't post like this to HN.

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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The fake wire transfer receipt is fraud. That's a criminal offense. Have a talk with the local DA. California has a large prison system, with cell space available. I've never heard of a startup going that far.

Apparently, the company posted on their facebook that they are taking legal action against OP as: "a disgruntled former employee who has launched a slanderous campaign against WrkRiot and some of its employees via social media". https://www.facebook.com/WrkRiot/

why would a company ever post anything like that on their FB page?

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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Welcome to the club. It's pretty much a rite of passage here to spend some time with a psychopath VC, a completely self absorbed CTO with a rich investor dad that fuels his fantasies, or an idiotic CEO with an ego problem, and to pay the price for it (just time if you're lucky, time+money if you're not). I've encountered this myself several times (down to the CEO using hire fast fire fast as a mantra), and judging fr…

> a psychopath VC, a completely self absorbed CTO with a rich investor dad that fuels his fantasies, or an idiotic CEO with an ego problem, and to pay the price for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_B_personality_disorder... For some reason we are not educated about this. We learn it the hard way by being taken in with what seems a good opportunity, then getting abused and then going our own way. We naively be…

I just got out of a relationship with someone who is borderline. It makes me really, really sad that borderline personality disorder is even a thing :(

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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Totally second this. Particularly look at: 1 How they treat their customers 2 How they treat their affiliates 3 How they encourage their affiliates to treat their customers.

How they treat wait staff in a restaurant is often extremely illuminating.

Not for borderlines, sadly.

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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Just wow. This is terrible. You don't understand the difference between a statutory employee and independant contractor. If you are an employee, the company is required by law to withhold taxes and pay you regularly. Every state in the U.S. has an agency that will take and prosecute wage claims. People have gone to jail for messing with witholding taxes. If you just invoice, you are effectively an independant contrac…

You also are unable to avail yourself of worker's compensation if you get hurt and unemployment compensation when you are laid off. It astonishes me that anyone could be so ignorant as to say there is nothing wrong with making people invoice you. As you've correctly stated, it's a completely different relationship. Even the liability is different. If you're a contractor and the guy who signs your checks says "nice as…

In most states now you can claim sexual harassment even as a contractor.

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

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post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just wow. This is terrible. You don't understand the difference between a statutory employee and independant contractor. If you are an employee, the company is required by law to withhold taxes and pay you regularly. Every state in the U.S. has an agency that will take and prosecute wage claims. People have gone to jail for messing with witholding taxes. If you just invoice, you are effectively an independant contrac…

You also are unable to avail yourself of worker's compensation if you get hurt and unemployment compensation when you are laid off. It astonishes me that anyone could be so ignorant as to say there is nothing wrong with making people invoice you. As you've correctly stated, it's a completely different relationship. Even the liability is different. If you're a contractor and the guy who signs your checks says "nice as…

It might actually be federal, I'd have to check though.

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

#569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, the company posted on their facebook that they are taking legal action against OP as: "a disgruntled former employee who has launched a slanderous campaign against WrkRiot and some of its employees via social media". https://www.facebook.com/WrkRiot/

why would a company ever post anything like that on their FB page?

Inexperience leads to ignorance (in the classic meaning of the word). The CMO discussed in the story is 23.

Re: Scammed By A Silicon Valley Startup

#570
Another follow-up by Tess Townsend of Inc.

A couple highlights:

"...I'm not happy that all these names and faces are out there." -- Penny Kim

Kim has received 10-20 invitations to apply for marketing positions in SV and Texas.

Kim received a cease and desist order via email prior to the now deleted threat of legal action posted to Facebook.

http://www.inc.com/tess-townsend/medium-post-wrkriot-viral-w...

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