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Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by milesf »

HisGraceTheDuck wrote: post #30
milesf wrote: post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

That's true and if it works for you that's great. Getting preachy about it isn't going to win you friends or change anyone's mind.

Preachy? Seriously?

I am not here to change minds or win friends. I'm 47. I respect a person's right to believe whatever they want, all I ask is they respect my right to believe whatever I want.

Yes, it does work for me and many other people, and it's a legitimate way to avoid gonorrhea and all other STD's including chlamydia, gonorrhea, herpes, hepatitis, HIV, human papillomavirus, syphilis, and all other STD/STI's.

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Post by milesf »

lostlogin wrote: post #107
milesf wrote: post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

Have a read up on abstinence education programs and read up on their stats.

Who cares! I remember listening to abed stuff back in the 80's, and chose to have sex anyway. As I mentioned in another comment, in 1990 I heard about the _science_ behind sexually transmitted diseases and chose to stop.

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Post by milesf »

SwellJoe wrote: post #42
milesf wrote: post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

No, thank you. That is not a novel thought. It is as old as religion. Abstinence based sex education has been shown to be ineffective, leading to greater pregnancy and STI transmission. Evidence says your idea won't help. And, well, it's also boring. I'll take my chances with responsible non-monogamy.

Go for it, man. Do whatever you want. I respect a person's right to believe anything they want, all I ask is they respect my right to believe whatever I want.

I did both. Have a look at other responses I gave in this thread. As far as AbEd education, who cares. I never listened to that stuff back in the 80's, and now we have the Internet, so we've got all the information.

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Post by ArkyBeagle »

coldtea wrote: post #117
hueving wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something improbable happening doesn't mean something else improbable will. I'm not sure what your point is.

His point is our existence is not some assured thing, it's a fragile semi-random event... And as I read it, he means that for our continued existence.

I think we are pretty "latched in". The semi-random part is more important than the fragile part.

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Post by vosper »

takeda wrote: post #157
vosper wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're really claiming it's silly to refuse advice from a random person on the Internet, in favour of waiting for studies and clinical data?

Yep, there's one thing to tell you to do something that could potentially be harmful, vs telling you to not doing something because it might be harmful to you. It took 50 years before it we noticed that there might be a relation with smoking causing a lung cancer and 80 years (1980) before we were sure about it[1][2]. Acne though is far less serious issue, and not many people would be interested finding cause for it,…

> "Yep, there's one thing to tell you to do something that could potentially be harmful, vs telling you to not doing something because it might be harmful to you.".

I don't think anyone was suggesting that it would be harmful to reduce sugar intake (although, I'm sure there may be cases where it is, or perhaps it's just easier said than done). I think it's more that there's apparently no proven link between sugar intake and acne and, given all the possible things that someone try in order do to reduce their acne, it might not make sense to choose one that has no evidence supporting it. Or at least, exhaust the other possibilities first.

Also, in the parent to my comment you say "scientists can't lock us in the cages to make sure we won't do anything else that will impact the results". But, they can, and do. It's called a controlled clinical trial. I've participated in one that went on for a week (was well paid for it) where we were kept in a room, fed a designed diet, and restricted in our activities. There were test subjects in the building who were in for much longer than my trial. So I don't think the idea that it's impossible to (dis)prove these things is accurate.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

coldtea wrote: post #116
ChuckMcM wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is a probability right? I generally don't spend my days worrying about how I'm going to survive the next asteroid strike on the planet (guaranteed to to be an issue at some point). I also get in my car and drive on the highway between here and there even though I know there are people driving under the influence that can kill me if they hit my car at speed. There are people who are getting shot by other pe…

> Everything is a probability right? Perhaps, but not everything gives the same odds and stakes. > I generally don't spend my days worrying about how I'm going to survive the next asteroid strike on the planet If there were legitimate news of an asteroid en route to earth, you probably would. And there are legitimate studies of antibiotics crapping out. And even if you don't "spend your days worrying" about the latte…

   > And even if you don't "spend your days worrying" 
   > about the latter (which I didn't suggest everybody 
   > should), doctors, biology researchers, drug companies
   > etc, better DO worry.
That was the point of my links, I do think it is an important topic, and when the threat of antibiotic resistant bacteria came up read a lot of different sources on how people were responding. That lead me to understand that the threat was being taken seriously, that significant funds were being invested in the solution, and really smart and dedicated people were working to find solutions. As those people started reporting on their work I could put it into the category of big problem, competent people are working on it, and they have the funding they need.

I spend more time thinking about underfunded efforts that are trying to address hard problems. For example I believe the development of tornado/hurricane proof affordable housing is under funded. Every year we (as a community of tax payers) fund the reconstruction of housing and neighborhoods destroyed by tornadoes or hurricanes. We reconstruct these neighborhoods with the same types of housing that were destroyed before knowing that it will be destroyed again. That is GDP that if we invested some of it in research and development of weather proof housing we could save in future years. As the planet warms this is just going to get worse, and flooding is going to be a huge issue. One thing about warmer air is that it carries more water, more water, more rain, more rain, more flooding. That is a problem worth spending time on and investing in.

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Post by giardini »

Mz wrote: post #46
giardini wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mz: "...like an alligator making swamps in the American South..." Alligators don't make swamps - they live in swamps. They do dig "alligator holes" but that is hardly swamp-making. Perhaps you're thinking of beavers, who _do_ very significantly modify waterways and lakes by building dams and nests?

Finally, they alter the hydrology of wet areas in which they live, connecting existing water sources and separating others depending on their seasonal movement patterns. https://bioventures.wordpress.com/2013/09/22/keystone-specie... From what I have read, swamps tend to fill in over time and turn into solid land -- unless there are alligators.

Mz: "From what I have read, swamps tend to fill in over time and turn into solid land -- unless there are alligators."

Swamps abound in lands with no alligators whatsoever. In places where there are alligators, they can serve as an indicator species or keystone species for ecological studies. Certainly they alter their environment and create niches for other species, but they aren't necessary for swamps and they don't create swamps. Removing all the alligators from a swamp would not get rid of the swamp. Putting a bunch of alligators into an area will not result in a swamp being created in that area.

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Post by superflit »

rmsaksida wrote: post #159
superflit wrote: post #141

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I just want to corroborate the poster with Brazilian data. Yes there is a 'law' that requires prescription and safe keeping of records about each sell. But as the same laws on every level they are only enforced at the middle class level (higher and lower class do not care). I am Brazilian and I do wish that law was more pervasive but My wish do not turn the facts other way. So yes, abuse in third world is rampant. Fa…

I don't think that's a widespread problem when it comes to antibiotics. For some other kinds of medication, it's probably true that people get them from the black market (think benzos). But antibiotics? Really? Do you know anyone who has ever done that? I'm sure those places exist but to say they are affecting resistance is a very big claim. And it has nothing to do with social class, every pharmacy I've been to in B…

Yes it is a Southeast Bias [1]. Check the map and choose the lowest IDH regions. and google it.

and "For some other kinds of medication, it's probably true that people get them from the black market (think benzos)."

Please, the market does not care what kind of medicine is dealt with, the black market is there to provide anything. You just need to go to the country side to see it.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brazilian_federative_u...

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Post by lostlogin »

milesf wrote: post #160
lostlogin wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question stands, what is a drug?

All drugs. Cocaine, marijuana, heroin, you name it. Legislation doesn't work, it only creates black markets that jack the price up and fund the less scrupulous elements of our society. Is _that_ an answer for you?

No. I agree that legislation doesn't work. You stated you don't take drugs, and I asked how you define "drug". Caffeine et al can easily be classified as drugs.

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Post by [deleted] »

milesf wrote: post #162
lostlogin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have a read up on abstinence education programs and read up on their stats.

Who cares! I remember listening to abed stuff back in the 80's, and chose to have sex anyway. As I mentioned in another comment, in 1990 I heard about the _science_ behind sexually transmitted diseases and chose to stop.

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