Google Takes on Uber with New Ride-Share Service

Post by rodgerd » Wed, Aug 31, 2016, 7:11 AM UTC

serge2k wrote: post #141

alkonaut wrote: post #109

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Not sure why you'd accept that very long. I'll tell you how it works here (swe): Most of restaurant employees in the city are organized. There are no minimum wages, instead the union and the corresponding employee organization agree on a minimum compensation. A restaurant that doesn't want to follow the agreement will risk being blockaded by both this Union and any other union that symphathizes, for example their tra…

> a nice university degree will likely not make you twice the hourly wage of the lowest diner job in the country. Why shouldn't it?

Post by michaelmrose » Wed, Aug 31, 2016, 7:16 AM UTC

Throwaway585250 wrote: post #214

doomtop wrote: post #120

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Your privilege is showing. Not everyone who "chose" the job they have really has a choice. It's just not that simple. BOH employee pay rates are generally not based on the assumption of tips the way they are for FOH employees. And don't forget, BOH employees don't have to deal with the way some people treat service workers.

Yours is showing too, along with an unhealthy dose of smugness. GP literally chose to be homeless instead of licking the boots of the wealthy for table scraps, which is a degree of courage above and beyond what could have been expected of him, but it was still courage. Saying that his ability to do this is privileged, is like claiming a man who saves a baby from a burning house is showing his able privilege: true, te…

Post by dzhiurgis » Wed, Aug 31, 2016, 7:33 AM UTC

luka-birsa wrote: post #357

Love it how Uber is getting Ubered by providing a service they were supposedly providing but it was only a marketing scam to get around Taxi regulation. This is proper "sharing economy" where the other party isn't doing this to make a living out of it. I wonder who will Airbnb the Airbnb and is that at all possible. The end will be the same anyways - both companies are competing for a spot on the customers mobile pho…

Post by paganel » Wed, Aug 31, 2016, 7:40 AM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #81

chrisseaton wrote: post #66

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> if tipping is an option, through a kind of cultural game-theoretic pressure, the situation will always devolve into the restaurant norm. at least that's how it is in the states In the UK tipping in restaurants is optional and, while it sounds really weird to say this, I don't think the waiters and waitresses seem to care either way. I don't get a different reaction from them if I tip or if I don't. They don't seem…

This is the case in every country I have ever been. If you read a travel guide for any country it might say that tips are usually given to taxi drivers, restaurant staff etc, but only in the US has zero tipping almost become equivalent to not paying the tab in full. Also, when I go to the US with 5-10 year intervals the norms for tipping seem to have always crept upwards.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 31, 2016, 7:52 AM UTC

snoman wrote: post #311

williamscales wrote: post #295

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I find it strange that the same tipping norms exist in Canada as in the US, since, if I'm not mistaken, Canadian waitstaff are paid at least minimum wage. In the US, the fact that waiters are paid less than minimum wage and expected to make it up on tips is often cited to explain why it is so bad to not tip at all.

Unfortunately, you are mistaken. Minimum wage for tipping jobs is much less than normal, in all of the 4 provinces I've lived in (AB, SK, ON, QC).