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Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by whyenot »

milesf wrote: post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

Human testes are much larger than one would expect in a truly monogamous primate[1].

Approximately 85% of all human cultures are polygamous and not monogamous[2].

1. Google "Harcourt testes 1981" and read the Nature article.

2. According to the Ethnographic Atlas Codebook, a scholarly catalog of world cultures.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by astrodust »

pyre wrote: post #58
astrodust wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm claiming Poe's Law here. This is such a neckbeard response it's ridiculous. "If nobody ever had sex we'd wipe out STDs within a generation!"

If nobody was having sex, you'd wipe out a generation in a generation.

Yeah, but at least STDs would be gone forever. Keep your eye on the ball, man!

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by S_Daedalus »

zackmorris wrote: post #60

Keep in mind that media outlets are unlikely to point out the fact that antibiotic resistance is mainly caused by antibiotic overuse on farms for livestock (due to the conflict of interest when so many ad dollars come from food). Yes, humans failing to finish their run for the time prescribed for them, and use of antibiotics for viral infections have been a problem too. But those are completely dwarfed by farm use. F…

This is true for so many issues, including water usage, greenhouse gasses, and broader forms of pollution.

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Post by Fomite »

Kenji wrote: post #34

If officials from the U.N. or from the WHO warn about something, I sleep particularly well at night, knowing that it's probably blown out of proportion by several orders or magnitude. Remember the bird flu? My employer at the time bought truckloads of sanitizers, plastic bins and related stuff. A complete waste of money. These people have lost every last shred of credibility for me.

The WHO are also the people who eradicated smallpox.

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Post by viraptor »

dogma1138 wrote: post #23
memracom wrote: post #6

Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

>The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). What!? antibiotics are for the most part the most important discovery in medical history, period. They by far saved more lives than virtually any other treatment and make many other treatments possible.

These two things are not incompatible. Yes, antibiotics are awesome. Yes, we messed up because these days you can convince your doctor to give you antibiotics for viral infections (they will tell you it's useless though) and take as little as you want of it, and create more resistance problems.

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Post by PuffinBlue »

antisthenes wrote: post #49
Maskawanian wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then you find that you are sexually incompatible with the person you married.

> sexually incompatible with the person you married That's as much of a myth as monogamy. Incompatible just means they're not attracted to you, or you to them. Call it what it is.

So both parties are physically/emotionally attracted to each other lets say but they're both submissive, or one has HL and the other LL (/r/deadbedrooms if you want more), or one's into monogomy and the other is polyamorous.

Just a few examples that confirm it's not a 'myth'.

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Post by Fomite »

notadoc wrote: post #59
Kenji wrote: post #34

If officials from the U.N. or from the WHO warn about something, I sleep particularly well at night, knowing that it's probably blown out of proportion by several orders or magnitude. Remember the bird flu? My employer at the time bought truckloads of sanitizers, plastic bins and related stuff. A complete waste of money. These people have lost every last shred of credibility for me.

You understand the point of warnings is for action to be taken to hopefully prevent a further problem, right? Have street "Stop" signs lost their credibility with you too?

Seriously. This is like complaining that someone called the fire department, and your house didn't burn down, so it was clearly all for nothing.

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Post by Fomite »

dfischer wrote: post #12
memracom wrote: post #6

Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

Crazy - I never actually took a step back and wondered if we could boost our defense as a strategy. In a geeky way, we keep drinking health potions to recover HP but if we had a shit ton of armor then we wouldn't need the HP potions to begin with. :)

An upregulated immune system is often the cause of autoimmune disorders, and is an inflammatory state (with health impacts as well). "Boosting our defense" is not a zero-risk strategy.

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Post by Fomite »

Mz wrote: post #17
memracom wrote: post #6

Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

You are really overcomplicating this. The gut is about 70% of the immune system. Gut health and old fashioned lifestyle approaches that limit the transmission of germs is simple, easy, inexpensive and has been around for millenia. It also smacks of religion and "boring, uptight" lives. So, it is nigh impossible to sell the idea. Perhaps that will get easier as people start dropping like flies from horrifying diseases…

Gonorrhea is not a gut pathogen. Nor for that matter is MRSA.

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Post by necessity »

zackmorris wrote: post #60

Keep in mind that media outlets are unlikely to point out the fact that antibiotic resistance is mainly caused by antibiotic overuse on farms for livestock (due to the conflict of interest when so many ad dollars come from food). Yes, humans failing to finish their run for the time prescribed for them, and use of antibiotics for viral infections have been a problem too. But those are completely dwarfed by farm use. F…

Any citation on that?
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