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Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by HisGraceTheDuck »

memracom wrote: post #6

Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

These are all excellent points and we should definitely be pursuing all available avenues. I don't think this is and either/or proposition - we should look into anything that can help.

Things like genome therapy are unfortunately a long way off so we need to look for antibiotics in the meantime.

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Post by dfischer »

memracom wrote: post #6

Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

Crazy - I never actually took a step back and wondered if we could boost our defense as a strategy.

In a geeky way, we keep drinking health potions to recover HP but if we had a shit ton of armor then we wouldn't need the HP potions to begin with. :)

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by labster »

memracom wrote: post #7
Mz wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antibiotic resistance in biofilms can be reversed. It isn't sexy. It isn't dramatic enough for the news. People don't like focusing on it. But we already have research into how to do that. If you are genuinely worried, you can look up such info.

Here is a place to start http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2016/01/29/the-rac... And given that you can use sugar to help heal wounds http://www.drwhitaker.com/sugar-on-wounds-for-healing/ what if you inject a sugar syrup into the bladder every time after you pee. Might work. Research is needed.

This sounds like a brilliant way to cause a bladder infection, and probably a kidney infection too.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by milesf »

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there.

It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/relationships/the-power-...

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by lvs »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

And then there are these stories : http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/287745.php talking about how there are all sorts of Antibiotics we don't even know about (yet). Or drugs that also kill bacteria ( http://phys.org/news/2016-02-major-breakthrough-antibiotic-r... ) or even this ( https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/20/antibi... ) Basically as we get to understand exactly how cells work and how b…

No, what you're encountering is the rift between new-media science bloggery and the real rate of scientific progress. In new-media science land, a university news office press release is akin to a solved problem. Antibotics? Done! Quantum computing? Solved! Room temperature superconductors? No problem!

The press releases are abominations compared to the underlying research, and the new media companies are embellishing even further for clickbait. It's shameful because it's not reality, which means it's a close cousin of lies.

Will progress be made? Yes, but until then global medical systems and agricultural sectors need to use sound antibiotics guidelines to avoid a looming catastrophe. No press release crap is saving patients who have MRSA right now!

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by dogma1138 »

memracom wrote: post #7
Mz wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antibiotic resistance in biofilms can be reversed. It isn't sexy. It isn't dramatic enough for the news. People don't like focusing on it. But we already have research into how to do that. If you are genuinely worried, you can look up such info.

Here is a place to start http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2016/01/29/the-rac... And given that you can use sugar to help heal wounds http://www.drwhitaker.com/sugar-on-wounds-for-healing/ what if you inject a sugar syrup into the bladder every time after you pee. Might work. Research is needed.

Sugar doesn't "heal wounds" like salt it creates an environment that prevents bacteria from surviving if the concentration is high enough. Honey, Sugar, Salt all have been used on wounds but this can also go pretty damn wrong easily.

You however do not want to inject sugar or anything like that into the bladder.

P.S.

As a general rule of thumb you should probably avoid using "home remedies" from imadoctor.com sites.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by Mz »

memracom wrote: post #6

Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

You are really overcomplicating this. The gut is about 70% of the immune system. Gut health and old fashioned lifestyle approaches that limit the transmission of germs is simple, easy, inexpensive and has been around for millenia.

It also smacks of religion and "boring, uptight" lives. So, it is nigh impossible to sell the idea.

Perhaps that will get easier as people start dropping like flies from horrifying diseases. But, for now, no one wants to hear it.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by astrodust »

milesf wrote: post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

Such a Hacker News answer. This is embarrassing.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by Maskawanian »

milesf wrote: post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

And then you find that you are sexually incompatible with the person you married.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Post by astrodust »

memracom wrote: post #7
Mz wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antibiotic resistance in biofilms can be reversed. It isn't sexy. It isn't dramatic enough for the news. People don't like focusing on it. But we already have research into how to do that. If you are genuinely worried, you can look up such info.

Here is a place to start http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2016/01/29/the-rac... And given that you can use sugar to help heal wounds http://www.drwhitaker.com/sugar-on-wounds-for-healing/ what if you inject a sugar syrup into the bladder every time after you pee. Might work. Research is needed.

Research into where you got this idea is desperately needed to avoid others making the same mistake.

Sugar is a good 'last resort' anti-biotic but it's certainly not the best option.

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