If I recall correctly they've had major issues duplicating studies which got positive results on this.
Can smiling make you happier?
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#23Forced smiles making you more happy? Talk to anyone in in-person customer service. Talk to a model or "sales associate". Talk to a waitress, or even a stripper. There are plenty of people who force smiles all day. It isn't fun. They don't feel better about themselves afterwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_mask_syndrome "According to Natsume, this atmosphere sometimes causes women to smile unnaturally for so…
I don't think this is quite the same as forcing yourself to smile for yourself.
The forced part is. If you actually choose to smile, then it is not forced, right?
I'd like to meet a person who actually can "smile for themselves" most of the time.
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#24Was anyone else disturbed by Strack and Martin's hand-waving away the null replication result? Based on my (admittedly elementary) knowledge of statistics, it seems like 17 replication attempts (samples) whose means are distributed around zero constitute some pretty airtight empirical evidence that there's no inner emotional effect from smiling. How else to read Strack and Martin's complaints but as a kind of special…
I was very concerned there, but for more than one reason.
He started out volunteering to replicate the study and also helping the researchers out a LOT with the experimental re-set-up. Then, when his research is found to be suspect, he starts to throw doubt on it.
Or at least that is what the news article author wrote. Both groups, the new author and the researchers, have incentive to recast what the results of the re-do say. One to sell ads, the other, it is implied, to keep tenure or something, I dunno.
Looking at the redo, there are many good reasons the original researchers have to continue to say their research may be 'good' still. Reasons that the rest of the field entertains and to some extent, believes.
Still, to your point that they may think it is impossible to replicate: That means that no real research occured in the first place. If they are seriously arguing, as the news author implicates, that a research team cannot ever replicate a study, they what they are doing is not 'science' or even psuedoscience. There then is NO POINT to doing any of the research in the first place. If you can't prove an effect, even with large errorbars or something, then you are wasting your life and the money of others.
Re: Can smiling make you happier?
#25Was anyone else disturbed by Strack and Martin's hand-waving away the null replication result? Based on my (admittedly elementary) knowledge of statistics, it seems like 17 replication attempts (samples) whose means are distributed around zero constitute some pretty airtight empirical evidence that there's no inner emotional effect from smiling. How else to read Strack and Martin's complaints but as a kind of special…
You are trying to intellectualize this too much. We simply tried an experiment. We smiled while we are feeling neutral or down. Voila! Emotion becomes positive after a while. Physiology affects psychology, and psychology affects emotions. Evidence is truth.
Re: Can smiling make you happier?
#26Forced smiles making you more happy? Talk to anyone in in-person customer service. Talk to a model or "sales associate". Talk to a waitress, or even a stripper. There are plenty of people who force smiles all day. It isn't fun. They don't feel better about themselves afterwards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_mask_syndrome "According to Natsume, this atmosphere sometimes causes women to smile unnaturally for so…
The smiling oppressed sex slave may indeed be happier than the frowning oppressed sex slave, but the frowning self empowered wealthy woman is likely happer than either the smiling or frowning opressed sex slave...on average.
Down vote is interesting. I was using an example to illustrate the fallacy of the grandparent's argument, and apparently the choice of 'sex slave' as an example of a bad situation someone might find themselves in left a bad taste. Maybe, however the point was that just because someone might be miserable in a bad job that requires forced smiles doesnt mean that the forced smile doesnt have a positive effect, just a smaller effect than the o e associated with having a bad job.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think this is quite the same as forcing yourself to smile for yourself.
The forced part is. If you actually choose to smile, then it is not forced, right? I'd like to meet a person who actually can "smile for themselves" most of the time.
As soon as you've decided to do something about being unhappy - even if it's just smiling - it's reasonable to think you'll be at least a slight bit happier.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The forced part is. If you actually choose to smile, then it is not forced, right? I'd like to meet a person who actually can "smile for themselves" most of the time.
As soon as you've decided to do something about being unhappy - even if it's just smiling - it's reasonable to think you'll be at least a slight bit happier.
Yeah - most people probably doesn't just think "I'm not feeling great, so I'll force my facial muscles to create a smile".
Instead they are likely thinking "Hey, what am I bitching about, things aren't so bad. I have lots of things in my life to smile about, so let's do it.".
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#29"You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun" --Al Capone
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#30Having to fake a smile to feel slightly happy is fairly depressing to me.
Feeling slightly happy is better than being totally depressed.