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Re: Guerrilla Bike Lanes in San Francisco

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Post by Thlom » Fri, Aug 26, 2016, 9:52 AM UTC

ubernostrum wrote: post #156

Thlom wrote: post #152

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I'm a pretty relaxed cyclist. I ride more or less upright, but the forward momentum is precious. It's no problem to stop while walking, it takes no more energy to start walking than to continue walking. Same goes for driving a car. On a bike on the other hand, starting to cycle requires much more energy than keeping momentum. That said, some "avid cyclists" are total jerks.

On a bike on the other hand, starting to cycle requires much more energy than keeping momentum. To which I have to say: that's on you. The only way to have multiple modes of transportation -- motorized, pedal, and foot -- coexist is for everybody to give a little. Which means there are times when you will have to stop and yield and wait for someone else, even if it costs you "momentum". (and this is the polite versio…

I understand where you're coming from, but reality is what it is, and how we design streets should reflect it, meaning we should design streets/cycle tracks so that cyclist don't have to stop at every intersection. If we want more cyclists and less cars in our cities.

In Copenhagen they have the "green wave" for cyclists. If you cycle at about 20 km/h you'll get green lights all the way through the city, they even have LED signs counting dow for next light change so you can slow down to hit the green or accelerate to reach the green before it changes to red.

Re: Guerrilla Bike Lanes in San Francisco

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Post by Someone » Fri, Aug 26, 2016, 7:58 PM UTC

Frondo wrote: post #270

Someone wrote: post #98

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"I'm half a block away but I'm going downhill and going pretty fast. I yell, "Watch out!"" At that time, you should have started braking. The road isn't yours, even if others break/bend the rules, like you do, when you 'never' cross the lights.

Oh, I love you motorists.

I get the impression you think I'm a motorist. If do, why do you think that?

Re: Guerrilla Bike Lanes in San Francisco

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Post by brokenmachine » Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 5:35 AM UTC

bigiain wrote: post #145

brokenmachine wrote: post #66

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I actually have no problem with those fines but they should be enforcing the 1m rule as well. Why wouldn't you wear a helmet as a cyclist anyway? It sucks that NSWPolice are more interested in fining cyclists and are ignoring people actually putting other people's lives in danger. When I drive and I see people riding with no helmet, I can't help but think to myself, "well you obviously don't care about your own safet…

Because I'm a grown up who can evaluate the risks/benefits for myself, and I'm sick to death of nanny-state victim-blaming resulting in erosion of rights and freedom? When you drive - do you wear a helmet? Why not?

I don't wear a helmet when I drive because when I'm driving I'm strapped inside a steel cage that does a very good job of protecting me in the case of a collision.

I do wear a helmet when I'm on a bike, not because of nanny-state laws, but because many drivers drive in the manner of someone with the luxury of being complacent because they are strapped inside a steel cage that does a very good job of protecting them in the case of a collision.

Re: Guerrilla Bike Lanes in San Francisco

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Post by brokenmachine » Tue, Aug 30, 2016, 12:59 AM UTC

snovv_crash wrote: post #82

brokenmachine wrote: post #66

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I actually have no problem with those fines but they should be enforcing the 1m rule as well. Why wouldn't you wear a helmet as a cyclist anyway? It sucks that NSWPolice are more interested in fining cyclists and are ignoring people actually putting other people's lives in danger. When I drive and I see people riding with no helmet, I can't help but think to myself, "well you obviously don't care about your own safet…

>Why wouldn't you wear a helmet as a cyclist anyway? Because a dinky bicycle helmet won't change anything if you are hit by a car. Even a motorcycle helmet won't help. The only time a helmet helps is in low speed accidents.

That's totally incorrect. You could be sideswiped by a car, lose your balance and fall onto the ground.

Yes, a helmet won't help if you have a full-frontal collision with a car going at 100km/h, but there are many situations (most situations?) where that isn't the case and a helmet will help.