From the US communist parties of the 1930s to the overleveraged anti-American sentiments of US citizens in the 1960s to the massively expanded and nebulous academic rush to redefine oppression in the 1990s to the "European socialism is so perfect" fantasies of the American lower class in 2010s, Russian propaganda has long been the bedrock of modern America leftism.
A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
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Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#42I use a simple method to recognize Putin's propagandists: Ask if someone is willing to condemn Putin for doing similar invasions as Hitler did in the 1930s. If the only answers you get to that question are personal attacks and attacks on USA, the person writing is probably working in St Petersburg and paid to write things on the internet. Edit: 1. I am not American "pabloski", at least get the unserious personal atta…
There's the Hitler mention I was waiting for! A new record!
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#43How great that the American information distribution system lets us see the truth, whereas the Russian one just fills heads with nonstop lies. For instance, it lets us see how America always has other countries' best interests at heart, even if the policy implementation is sometimes misguided, whereas non-allied countries are just aggressively seeking power. It's a good thing our media is dedicated to the truth, and not towards perpetuating narratives that are useful to those in power.
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you sure they are not the USA who are doing similar invasions as Hitler? Do you remember? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria ( through Al-Nusra aka Al-Qaeda, yes Al-Qaeda! ). WTF, at least listen to Gen. Wesley Clark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM How can you ( americans ) condemn Russia without an ounce of shame? I am an EU citizen, so I am not russian, not a Putin shill, not a payed troll. And what ab…
This was a coherent argument until it got to the "shameless media who attack Donald Trump on each word he spells" and then cited RT about Syria.
Well since the first part of the argument is "The USA is like Hitler so Russia is flawless", I'd give the post 0 out of 10 and conjecture that 4chan must be down right now
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#45How great that the American information distribution system lets us see the truth, whereas the Russian one just fills heads with nonstop lies. For instance, it lets us see how America always has other countries' best interests at heart, even if the policy implementation is sometimes misguided, whereas non-allied countries are just aggressively seeking power. It's a good thing our media is dedicated to the truth, and…
You are rebutting an argument the New York Times piece is not making.
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#46As a witness of protests at Maidan square in Kiev, I was staggered by the depiction of the events in Russian medias: it was a heavily engineered and coherently orchestrated image full of humongous distortions to the point of creating a parallel reality. Their usual tool is taking an insignificant trend/event that fits their needs and blowing it out of proportions ("nazi" at Maidan, "repressed Russian-speaking population" in mostly Russian-speaking Kiev), producing emotional news about fake events ("a little boy in Slavyansk crucified by Ukrainian punishers"), carefully planned wording and dictionary ("Ukrainian junta/punishers"), flooding websites with paid trolls [1].
Having seen it myself, I will not believe a single word from Russian medias until the Russian regime and its centralized control over media is gone.
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was a coherent argument until it got to the "shameless media who attack Donald Trump on each word he spells" and then cited RT about Syria.
Well since the first part of the argument is "The USA is like Hitler so Russia is flawless", I'd give the post 0 out of 10 and conjecture that 4chan must be down right now
I didn't say I agreed with it, just that the first part of the comment appears to be from one commenter, and the second part from another.
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#48The New York Times has a long history of cooperating with three-letter agencies as a state mouthpiece. The irony of their publishing this article is delicious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
It's not just a matter of the moral equivalence of propaganda, but of credibility. When a major media outlet is pushing a narrative that supports a government agenda, skepticism is warranted.
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#49I use a simple method to recognize Putin's propagandists: Ask if someone is willing to condemn Putin for doing similar invasions as Hitler did in the 1930s. If the only answers you get to that question are personal attacks and attacks on USA, the person writing is probably working in St Petersburg and paid to write things on the internet. Edit: 1. I am not American "pabloski", at least get the unserious personal atta…
There's the Hitler mention I was waiting for! A new record!
The last ones in Europe that made a habit to invade countries and appropriate area were Hitler and Stalin. So whom else could I compare with?
Are you willing to condemn Putin for doing similar invasions and annexations..?
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#50The New York Times has a long history of cooperating with three-letter agencies as a state mouthpiece. The irony of their publishing this article is delicious.
every time Russia is mentioned on HN, folks just happen to want the narrative thread to be how unfairly persecuted Russia is by the western media.
It would be fair if the source of the allegations wasn't likewise tainted.
Russia engages in propaganda, and this is abundantly obvious; it would be nice if those claiming such were forward and honest about their own ethical deviancies and the actions of their own state. It is tiresome to hear but one side of the concern from the media.