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WhatsApp – Opting out of new terms doesn’t stop Facebook taking information

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Re: WhatsApp – Opting out of new terms doesn’t stop Facebook taking information

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The terms mention this explicitly and it was talked about when the original stories broke; is there anything new here? I didn't see anything at least.

The data WhatsApp will still share with Facebook is the type of data that can be anonymized and while I'm not saying it will (I mean why would they bother? Probably more valuable to NOT anonymize) it's the typical data most apps are collecting.

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Well this is kind of obvious, is it not? Of course Facebook is going to have access to your data, they run the service. It's the same as expecting Google to not have access to your nest data, or Amazon to not have access to your twitch data.

If it turns out that they're still using our data for advertisement purposes between the two platforms after opting out, then we can be outraged.

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I don't get the problem. If you don't trust them why don't you just stop using them? It's not like it's a government spying program you're being forced into and it's not like there aren't a gazillions chat apps alternatives. Also the intersection of people who use whatsapp and have no Facebook already on their phone with access to contacts must be pretty small so not sure this change is as controversial as claimed in this article.

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I don't get the problem. If you don't trust them why don't you just stop using them? It's not like it's a government spying program you're being forced into and it's not like there aren't a gazillions chat apps alternatives. Also the intersection of people who use whatsapp and have no Facebook already on their phone with access to contacts must be pretty small so not sure this change is as controversial as claimed in…

Really? All my friends, my boss, the shop I just bought a new suit at, my municipality, they're all on whatsapp nowadays. It's a pretty big deal to just cut it out of my life. It's a platform that's approaching something like 'have an email address' or 'have a phone' in practical terms.

There are workarounds but they're not as painless as simply deciding to 'use an alternative chat alternative'. It's like saying you don't like English? Well try esperanto and good luck functioning in the US. I've given some extremely exaggerated examples, particularly this last one haha, but I've found reliance on Whatsapp to be substantial and on the rise.

I do agree by the way that this isn't that big a deal. I'm completely fine to continue using them, but if I wasn't the proposed 'just stop using them, there's chat alternatives' really doesn't fly. It'd be really shitty.

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I don't get the problem. If you don't trust them why don't you just stop using them? It's not like it's a government spying program you're being forced into and it's not like there aren't a gazillions chat apps alternatives. Also the intersection of people who use whatsapp and have no Facebook already on their phone with access to contacts must be pretty small so not sure this change is as controversial as claimed in…

Really? All my friends, my boss, the shop I just bought a new suit at, my municipality, they're all on whatsapp nowadays. It's a pretty big deal to just cut it out of my life. It's a platform that's approaching something like 'have an email address' or 'have a phone' in practical terms. There are workarounds but they're not as painless as simply deciding to 'use an alternative chat alternative'. It's like saying you…

I don't use neither facebook nor whatsapp and I live perfectly fine. It's not like you stop breathing.

In my experience telling people that you prefer a different medium from whatsapp is not a big deal.

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Really? All my friends, my boss, the shop I just bought a new suit at, my municipality, they're all on whatsapp nowadays. It's a pretty big deal to just cut it out of my life. It's a platform that's approaching something like 'have an email address' or 'have a phone' in practical terms. There are workarounds but they're not as painless as simply deciding to 'use an alternative chat alternative'. It's like saying you…

I don't use neither facebook nor whatsapp and I live perfectly fine. It's not like you stop breathing. In my experience telling people that you prefer a different medium from whatsapp is not a big deal.

Depends on where you live. You'd be a monster here if you didn't use WhatsApp :D

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I don't use neither facebook nor whatsapp and I live perfectly fine. It's not like you stop breathing. In my experience telling people that you prefer a different medium from whatsapp is not a big deal.

Depends on where you live. You'd be a monster here if you didn't use WhatsApp :D

So doesn't that make that position downright dangerous? As a 3rd party to this argument, now I agree with the other guy.

edit: to clarify I mean I should join the opt-out side to help stop it from becoming socially unacceptable

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