Who knows what happens. The Canadian startup visa in three years managed to bring in 100 people including dependents http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/start-up-program-disap...
For Canada there are so many options it's hard to compare to US
USCIS Proposes Rule to Welcome International Entrepreneurs
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#122Is it really required to found a startup inside US to have a greater chance of success? Or more specifically in the bay? I have seen many successful startups found in other countries (such as China) Alibaba, Tencent, etc. Is this a push that all talented software engineers HAVE TO move to the bay to become successful? I'm very doubtful on that claim.
> Is this a push that all talented software engineers HAVE TO move to the bay to become successful?
A fresh grad in the Bay earns more than a 40-year-old director of engineering in Toronto.
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#123How about a rule to welcome anyone who isn't a criminal?
In case you're not joking: it depends greatly on what country they're coming from. In countries without a strong rule of law, you can be a very bad person without ever being convicted of a criminal offense. And in other countries, good people are given criminal records for things we approve of, such defending human rights or religious freedom. USCIS can't really go interview lots of people for each decision to decide…
> USCIS can't really go interview lots of people for each decision to decide who's "good".
If you charge $100 an interview, you can interview as many people as you want. It would be a better job program than the TSA.
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#124There are six billion people in shitty countries, and one billion people in rich countries. If you move the population of Somalia to Connecticut, what do you think happens?
> shitty countries
This is the kind of name-calling that the site guidelines ask you not to do (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html). It's particularly shameful that you put down a specific country as "shitty". We don't need that on HN.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12367643 and marked it off-topic.
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#125Is it really required to found a startup inside US to have a greater chance of success? Or more specifically in the bay? I have seen many successful startups found in other countries (such as China) Alibaba, Tencent, etc. Is this a push that all talented software engineers HAVE TO move to the bay to become successful? I'm very doubtful on that claim.
No, they dont' have to. However, if you are startup, then startup == growth, which means having access to lots of capital, fast. Therefore, you should move to where there's an abundance of money, harboring people with just the right mindset to invest.
where there's an abundance of money, harboring people with just the right mindset to invest.
Right now it's the best time in the last 15 years in mainland China to seek VC.
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#126The number doesn't quite work out: you got two years, and if the business can demonstrate passing certain benchmarks (500k funding or (500k revenue and 20% annual growth) or 10 'murican jobs), you get another 3 years. 5 years is enough if your business fails fast, but otherwise it's unlikely to be sufficient for building one (on average). This is a parole rather than a visa, so it still leaves the question on what's…
> 10 'murican jobs I'm about the farthest thing there is from a SJW, but have you considered how people will interpret your use of the slang "`murican"? To me, it sounds like a reference to a meme which paints persons from the southern part of the U.S. as parochial and unintelligent. Have I misunderstood the reference?
I'm not aware of any meme with the usage of "'murican" that paints certain part of the US as parochial and unintelligent.
In any case, that's not what I intended. My usage of "'murican" would have been closer to the joke about Canadians always apologizing than your reading.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where does it say bootstrappers can use this method? I'd love it to be the case. My market is almost entirely based in the USA. I'm in Canada, but have no legal method to do any work in the US. So it's all remote now.
if you are actually doing well you can setup a US subsidiary and then do an L1-A transfer.
Oh, I added in another comment that I run a solo business. I don't think an L1-A would apply in that case, because I couldn't have a subsidiary without employees.
I could hire employees, but it would involve doing a whole new business model purely for the sake of a US visa.
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#128There are six billion people in shitty countries, and one billion people in rich countries. If you move the population of Somalia to Connecticut, what do you think happens?
> shitty countries This is the kind of name-calling that the site guidelines ask you not to do ( https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html ). It's particularly shameful that you put down a specific country as "shitty". We don't need that on HN. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12367643 and marked it off-topic.
Oh, fucking come on. Somalia is shitty. I don't think that's controversial. Everyone knows Somalia is shitty, including Somalis, which is why they're so keen to get out.
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> It appears, it has the same issue as H-1B visas. At least in my opinion. For India/China natives on EB-2 or EB-3 categories, I agree. For all the others, being able to self-petition for the green card as an entrepreneur means you won't need a company to sponsor you. (or your own start-up is sponsoring you?), and the full process could be done in less than 5 years. The downside here would be the legal costs and hass…
Thanks to the unquestionable red tape and annoyingly ( really annoying ) slow and sloppy work-culture at the USCIS it is a privilege here to share with you that even the EB1 categories of both India & China are now s̶i̶g̶n̶i̶f̶i̶c̶a̶n̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶l̶o̶g̶g̶e̶d̶ frozen [1]. Yes, welcome to 2016. A significant portion of talent that used to earlier fall in H1B->(Eb2/Eb3) category has now grown up in life and also gon…
EB1 visas are now taken away by highly skilled and talented "managers" from TCS, Infosys, Cognizant etc. There's a special category of EB1 visas, EB1C which is on offer for managers. Skills that these companies face severe shortage in US include HR, Relationship Management, Finance/Accounting.