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Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by zoom6628 »

Very happy to see someone keep an editor going as a commercial product for so many years. I think this is a good example of 'craft'. There are a few gems out there that once you stumble over them, they become part of your toolbox and are just so much better than anything else for the work that you do, that you stick with them. This looks to me to be an example of that.

Not all IDEs suit all people. Apart from feature set one also has to consider style and operations. Im most happy when i find the features+style+operations match to the job at hand. And that is why i turn to Notepad++ when i have to ferret around in files of different types, awk when i have to mess with text/log files. I turn to VS only when i have to code something in C#, use PyCharm for python things.

Bottom line when an IDE 'just clicks' for you then its a wonderfully productive tool.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by robobro »

ww520 wrote: post #39
qwertyuiop924 wrote: post #32

I'll stick with Emacs for now. $250 is a bit heavy for those of us with little disposable income. In addition, I fail to see the advantage of this over Emacs: Emacs already has pretty much all of Epsilon's features, and a larger community. Furthermore, I highly doubt that its extensibility features are as extensive. It's kinda cool, though. Sidenote: why do I always see the HN headlines up to a day ahead in the previ…

Epsilon is very fast, like coming up in a second. Emacs takes tens of seconds up to a minute. You start Emacs and hope to never shut it down. With epsilon you can start it on a file quickly and move on.

one word: emacsclient

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by robobro »

kabdib wrote: post #22

I've been using Epsilon for 25+ years. It's great, and well worth the money I have spent on the updates over the past few decades. It's my go-to editor. I can get along in vanilla Emacs, but Epsilon is a lot friendlier on a Windows box. There's not much I would change on the Windows version (better multiple monitor support might be interesting0. I would pay dear money for better MacOS support.

Yeah, it looks way better than vanilla emacs on the Windows version.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by lgas »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #37
azeirah wrote: post #25

Because of all the positive comments I decided to try the editor. For all of you evangalizing this editor, why do keybindings like "F9, Ctrl-X U" make sense for common tasks like undo? Press F9, release and then quickly press ctrl-x, release and then press u. Even during my short time with emacs did I not hurt my fingers this much

Just to point out, the binding for undo in emacs is C-X u.

Actually, the primary binding is 'C-/', with 'C-x u' and 'C-_' as alaises. The 'C-x u' alias exists because it's easier for new users to remember and the 'C-_' alias exists because that's what some terminals send when you press 'C-/'.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by pschastain »

kelvin0 wrote: post #33

Lugaru is from the french word 'Loup-Garou' which means Werewolf. I wonder where he got the idea to name the software company as such? Also it speaks volumes that no one has yet commented on appearance of the website, I guess the target audience is not the 'get the latest hip named thing' kinda crowd.

From the site (http://www.lugaru.com/why-lugaru.html):

'Sometimes people ask what our company name, Lugaru, means. It's actually a phonetic spelling of the French word for werewolf, "loup-garou". One day in 1984, after finally turning off the computers and noticing the sun had come up, we decided this might be an appropriate name for our new company.'

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by zem »

PeCaN wrote: post #17

Its extension language looks very interesting. It looks very powerful while having domain-specific features (I've noticed ‘user’, ‘command’, and ‘save_var’ keywords). See e.g. http://www.lugaru.com/ftp/for-v13/cmake.e http://www.lugaru.com/ftp/for-v13/lispmode.e Also, the demo is extremely snappy. Shame it doesn't seem to have vi emulation (unless I missed it?) or org-mode, both of which are killer features of emacs…

as text editor extension languages go, i really liked aurora's [old dos-era editor with an emacs-like core + soft layer architecture]. it was pascal-like, and really pleasant to work with.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~knassen/amacs.html

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by rbryan13 »

PeCaN wrote: post #23
rbryan13 wrote: post #20

Epsilon is great. Let me offer a whole-hearted recommendation. It's a secret weapon, an unfair advantage we have, those of us in the know. I was so happy to come upon it as a sadly ex-Symbolics-ZMacs user (and ex-MIT-TECO-Emacs user) when first confronted with a 286 system, and I have have been using it ever since. I buy a few copies every few years, typically for team members who wonder what's that magic I keep usin…

Why do you prefer it over regular Emacs? How is it better enough to make up for the much larger collection of extensions for Emacs? The demo for me just felt like a snappier Emacs clone.

Well, the first N specific things that come to mind have already been expressed pretty well by previous comments here (including your own "snappier"). The next 10*N things are already expressed pretty well in the 2009-format-but-still-valid-content marketroid material on lugaru.com. As it happens, I haven't found a need to explore a universe of community extensions because right out of the "box" Epsilon does nearly everything I need, and my few personal extensions take care of the rest. Beyond that, I no longer care to engage in yet another emacs religious war, and emacs does not need any bad-mouthing from me.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Post by sooheon »

robobro wrote: post #42
ww520 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Epsilon is very fast, like coming up in a second. Emacs takes tens of seconds up to a minute. You start Emacs and hope to never shut it down. With epsilon you can start it on a file quickly and move on.

one word: emacsclient

Only use emacs, not epsilon, but someone above mentioned that it can handle long lines. Emacs, despite being a good editor, is not performant in such cases.
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