ensuring a good user experience across multiple platforms and browsers is a huge challenge for web developers and QA organizations
It's a shame we've been fighting this battle since the 1990s and are still fighting it.
WebDriver Support in Safari 10
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Re: WebDriver Support in Safari 10
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to the docs: yes. https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/content/relea...
Where are you seeing that? I'm seeing: >Safari on OS X supports WebDriver, which lets you automate web-content testing. It provides a set of interfaces to manipulate DOM elements and control the browser’s behavior. You can enable Remote Automation in the Develop menu and then launch the server using /usr/bin/safaridriver. For information about library integrations as they become available, see the information about S…
Sorry guys, you're right. It's a bit confusing that Apple doesn't state clearly at all of the new features whether they're iOS / macOS-only.
Re: WebDriver Support in Safari 10
#33ensuring a good user experience across multiple platforms and browsers is a huge challenge for web developers and QA organizations It's a shame we've been fighting this battle since the 1990s and are still fighting it.
Why would this be an easy battle? Creating design and code that works on billions of devices, on independently-developed browsers for multiple operating systems, viewed through wildly-varying physical dimensions and I/O, seems like it's one of those battles that would seem to be perpetual.
Re: WebDriver Support in Safari 10
#34Part of me is thrilled by anything that makes validation easier. Part of me is frightened by the expansion of the attack surface of the browser, particularly given how Apple has been losing their quality edge of late.
> particularly given how Apple has been losing their quality edge of late I know this is a subjective opinion and I'm not going to touch upon whether I think it's true or not, but I want to know why you even said this bit? The common claims about Apple's quality slipping don't have anything to do with security. If anything, Apple's security is getting better and better over time.
It is very noticeable that their software quality is dropping. It is parsimonious to assume this will impact complicated API surfaces negatively.
Re: WebDriver Support in Safari 10
#35It's a good thing but they are really late to the party in supporting Selenium.
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#36Re: WebDriver Support in Safari 10
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
You kid, but at some point over the years, I had that same epiphany: If you want a built-in justification to play with any new toy, pursue a career in test automation! (I don't have a Tesla, yet, but I'd be happy to be invited over to the test track to talk shop... But seriously folks... I'm very curious how they test the software running on their dashboard and center console.)
Google's advice was always emulation--the tests running on dozens of Dell servers were faster and more reliable at bug hunting than physical hardware. Obviously there are limits, but the advice in 2013 was to prioritise automated tests in simulators instead of on real devices. Note the emphasis on automation, though -- you can totally expense that Tesla for the manual/acceptance testing ;-)
Emulation, and specifically domain modeling, goes a wicked long way and has huge speed advantages in general.