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Epsilon Programmer's Editor

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Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#31
Sometimes programmers need to look at unusual files: binary files, very big files, odd data files. Epsilon was designed without the limits of other editors, so it can handle these kinds of jobs, as well as ordinary files. For example, with Epsilon, lines can be as long as you like.

This text editor gets it. Such a contrast to some of the editors we have today where anything over a few megabytes is an edge case not worth fixing.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#32
I'll stick with Emacs for now. $250 is a bit heavy for those of us with little disposable income.

In addition, I fail to see the advantage of this over Emacs: Emacs already has pretty much all of Epsilon's features, and a larger community. Furthermore, I highly doubt that its extensibility features are as extensive.

It's kinda cool, though.

Sidenote: why do I always see the HN headlines up to a day ahead in the previous headlines? Is this just thing everybody sees? Or am I just really lucky picking my threads?

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#33
Lugaru is from the french word 'Loup-Garou' which means Werewolf. I wonder where he got the idea to name the software company as such? Also it speaks volumes that no one has yet commented on appearance of the website, I guess the target audience is not the 'get the latest hip named thing' kinda crowd.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#34
I think "ϵpsilon" was my first programmer's editor, although I think I had previously written programs in EDT, Turbo Pascal, Turbo C++, QBASIC, GW-BASIC, ZBASIC, IBM Basic, Applesoft Basic, WordStar, and a thing called Video Scribe for HDOS. It was so much better than nearly all of the alternatives, even though I didn't use its IDE features.

It was super helpful to me to have used ϵpsilon when I got my first Unix account in 1993, because I already knew how to use Emacs, almost. Some of the basic keybindings (like exiting and changing windows) were different enough to be an obstacle.

And then I never looked back. From then on I used my 286 to run Procomm+ and Vernon Buerg's LIST.COM, not to write programs on. Sorry, ϵpsilon. Emacs is an entire universe.

(Since then I've also programmed in vim, IDEA, Eclipse, some prototype editors I've written, Arduino, XCode, Notepad, OpenSCAD, and browsers, mostly in order to collaborate with other people and occasionally because they are better integrated with one or another more or less shitty system than Emacs is. But Emacs is pretty much the most convenient way to program for me.)

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#35
The GNU Emacs website does a better sales job...which is interesting because unlike this product, GNU does not even need to sell anything. When looking through the website I see Windows 95-ish screenshots, pages that say they have not been updated in over five years, and little description of what it does beyond saying it's like EMACS. No clue at all about why I should use this rather than one of the other free-beer editors out there. And now I read these comments and see it costs $250? Why??

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#36

Been using Epsilon daily since 1989. I've been disillusioned lately that it's not been updated for quite some time. The developer is still quite responsive though, and even though I use it less than I used to, I still use it every day. I was hoping to see a native Mac version rather than the version that depends on X.

+1 for better Mac support. I don't know if the author has any inclination to do an update, but I would definitely re-buy the editor if the Mac version didn't depend on X.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#37
post #25

Because of all the positive comments I decided to try the editor. For all of you evangalizing this editor, why do keybindings like "F9, Ctrl-X U" make sense for common tasks like undo? Press F9, release and then quickly press ctrl-x, release and then press u. Even during my short time with emacs did I not hurt my fingers this much

Just to point out, the binding for undo in emacs is C-X u.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#39

I'll stick with Emacs for now. $250 is a bit heavy for those of us with little disposable income. In addition, I fail to see the advantage of this over Emacs: Emacs already has pretty much all of Epsilon's features, and a larger community. Furthermore, I highly doubt that its extensibility features are as extensive. It's kinda cool, though. Sidenote: why do I always see the HN headlines up to a day ahead in the previ…

Epsilon is very fast, like coming up in a second. Emacs takes tens of seconds up to a minute. You start Emacs and hope to never shut it down. With epsilon you can start it on a file quickly and move on.

Re: Epsilon Programmer's Editor

#40
post #8

We changed the title from “A mighty editor still being sold after 30 years for $250”, which breaks the HN guidelines for editorializing. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

And now the headline provides absolutely no indication of why it's an interesting link. Sigh. Why not just strike "mighty" and leave it as "An editor still being sold after 30 years for $250"?

From the guidelines:

> Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait.

The long-standing policy is to represent the submitted content as accurately as possible and let readers pick out what's interesting to them, not what the submitter found interesting. The comment thread is the place to express one's opinion on the content.

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