Live data from Hacker News

Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

backchannel.com

101–110 of 175 posts

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#101
I wish Twitch had an Apple TV app.

I've found that the Apple TV is the only way I "get" YouTube in the same way the kids these days do. No way am I watching videos on my laptop/desktop/iPhone/iPad while multitasking, but video on the big TV is great when sitting on the couch or on in the background.

Twitch on the Apple TV would be similar, but it appears Amazon (as with Prime Video) is refusing to release an app.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#102
post #101

I wish Twitch had an Apple TV app. I've found that the Apple TV is the only way I "get" YouTube in the same way the kids these days do. No way am I watching videos on my laptop/desktop/iPhone/iPad while multitasking, but video on the big TV is great when sitting on the couch or on in the background. Twitch on the Apple TV would be similar, but it appears Amazon (as with Prime Video) is refusing to release an app.

Welcome to todays walled entertainment gardens. Amazon thinks their Fire TV or Stick is superior to Apple TV (or any other product) and why would you want an Apple TV anyway? (sarcasm)

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#104
post #6

It's worth noting that in the 2 year period since Amazon bought Twitch, their search interest via Google has been stagnant. https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=2014-08-25%202016...

So have "Google" and "Amazon." Most people do not search these terms to get to the website and we know Amazon and Google have been doing well in the last two years.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#105

This whole industry of game streaming is operating in a gray zone. It's a matter of time before we see some big lawsuits against the streamer and streaming platforms which make a lot of money by publishing the whole content, without any royalties to game developers /publishers. For certain games. it doesn't spoil or ruin the fun factor for viewers, but some others it just removed the incentives to buy a copy of the g…

If that does happen it will be unprecedented. Activision and Bungie, which own Destiny, frequently works with streamers to premiere new content and hold events and they are not alone. They seem to know that streamers are good for business.

nintendo? not exactly unprecedented.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#106

What is a good example of a twitch stream to show how great live streaming can be?

Great is fairly subjective. Some categories with examples to cover some range, clicking around in each of these should give some impression:

Big events/tournaments are basically like TV coverage of sports, with similar production values. Examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wJkl-6w09s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSqxzRtwi80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIygo3bIVmo

-----------------

YouTubers that also do streams, personality is important. I personally find this kind often to slow and with to many interruptions, so I don't really watch them. But they are popular and seem to be a great way to make money (compared with just YouTube).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjCGn1wo4kQ (mostly strategy/simulation-type games, relatively small following -> interacts with subscribers a lot, names ingame-things after them ("hi $name! weren't you a dwarf that lost both arms once?"). EDIT: he is also streaming Ludum Dare this weekend, for another type of streaming content: https://www.twitch.tv/quill18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uegnAQD1hRs (Minecraft player, relatively random pick)

------------------

There is also the category of competitive players streaming just playing (and since competitive play takes their attention, there is not much interaction with the audience. But you get to see how somebody really good at a game plays like and hear them explain their logic). Don't have good examples available though, since I don't play competitive games.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#107
post #2

Amazon bought two things with Twitch: 1) A social community 2) a monetization model. The video service itself is secondary. The past several years has shown the social communities grow organically. But its hard to make users adopt one. If you build it, they probably won't come. It's easier for a big company to buy one up than start one from scratch. (Think Instagram versus Google Plus). Second, Twitch is one of the f…

> The active engagement of Twitch viewers can often help boost sales for games that prove popular among live streams.

Can users purchase games (from Amazon) directly through Twitch? Amazon could offer streamers a referral cut, too.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#108
post #102
post #101

I wish Twitch had an Apple TV app. I've found that the Apple TV is the only way I "get" YouTube in the same way the kids these days do. No way am I watching videos on my laptop/desktop/iPhone/iPad while multitasking, but video on the big TV is great when sitting on the couch or on in the background. Twitch on the Apple TV would be similar, but it appears Amazon (as with Prime Video) is refusing to release an app.

Welcome to todays walled entertainment gardens. Amazon thinks their Fire TV or Stick is superior to Apple TV (or any other product) and why would you want an Apple TV anyway? (sarcasm)

Amazon doesn't want to pay a tax to apple when they sell videos/service through an AppleTV. Amazon Prime app is available on other media players.

Apple on the other hand doesn't support their video ITunes content on non apple devices.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#109

Funny enough, I'm watching a Starcraft II channel on Twitch just now, while reading HN. I don't play any games, not even the smallest, but I watch - although only caster streams, not player streams. Tastosis FTW :) I have a cable subscription as part of my apartment package - but I don't use it. I don't even have a TV. Internet and streaming only . I find that if I had TV I'd be much more passive and watch too much,…

I don't play computer games either, or watch Twitch streams, but I have watched quite a few "Let's Play" walkthroughs on YouTube (mostly old adventure games). You get to experience the game's story and puzzles without the frustration. ;)

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

#110

With all that growth opportunity, you'd think they could invest a little more in the engineering side. I mean, I like Twitch, but their platform is still a mess. Chat delay can be a minute or more, and the VOD situation still sucks (60 days? Seriously?). I mean, they're owned by the people who run AWS for crying out loud. They should be able to knock this out of the park. I thought YouTube Gaming was going to muscle…

Or at least dump all the Justin.tv usernames that aren't in use so I don't have to register a hideous username.
Post reply on HN