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Re: USCIS Proposes Rule to Welcome International Entrepreneurs

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I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here. A few years ago, I noticed that Britain would give a blanket visa to anyone with an MBA from a list of top international schools. How about something like that for people with Masters/PhDs (in STEM) from top-50 schools in the world. That said, the proposed rule might mean if one gets into YC/techstars, etc. they would be able to get a visa for the US easily. The l…

> I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here

Why?

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post #39

What will happen after the 5 years stay ? Should the entrepreneur pack up and leave ? Why should an entrepreneur startup something when he/she is not sure about their residency in US. This rule says 'parole' & self petition, the residency path is not clear. And when it comes to residency, US immigration for skilled immigrants is so broken that you will regret applying for one.

5 years is more than enough time in startup land to either be a failure or at least modest success - startups are designed to grow quickly after all.

If you're on the success path then getting an O1 should be very straight forward, and then a EB1 greencard should also be easy.

If you're a failure, well - this isn't supposed to be a path to citizenship for people with failed businesses.

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I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here. A few years ago, I noticed that Britain would give a blanket visa to anyone with an MBA from a list of top international schools. How about something like that for people with Masters/PhDs (in STEM) from top-50 schools in the world. That said, the proposed rule might mean if one gets into YC/techstars, etc. they would be able to get a visa for the US easily. The l…

> I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here. A few years ago, I noticed that Britain would give a blanket visa to anyone with an MBA from a list of top international schools. Care to explain the reasoning? It seems shortsighted to limit this proposal to people with advanced degrees, and why only from the top 50 schools in the world? How does this make sense in the context of startups? > That said, the prop…

I make a value judgement that the economy needs startups that work on deep, meaningful technologies. While they are certainly instances where people without advanced education are able to innovate in deep technology disciplines, there are many cases where education is the key barrier to entry. If someone spent a decade getting specialized education in an area like FPGA, MEMS design, etc. I do think they should have an easier path into the country than someone with no specialized education. Canada is trying the "we'll give you a visa if your startup is funded by recognized investors". I think that stops people who have bootstrapped ventures or funding from their own savings/family savings. I'm also not saying advanced education is THE requirement. I'm saying, it should be one of the possible options. That's just my opinion :)

With convertible notes that are sometimes given to member companies of distinguished seed funds, I think getting to 345K isn't a stretch.

Re: USCIS Proposes Rule to Welcome International Entrepreneurs

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I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here. A few years ago, I noticed that Britain would give a blanket visa to anyone with an MBA from a list of top international schools. How about something like that for people with Masters/PhDs (in STEM) from top-50 schools in the world. That said, the proposed rule might mean if one gets into YC/techstars, etc. they would be able to get a visa for the US easily. The l…

So only people who have Master's degrees are capable of launching successful businesses?

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post #9

It looks like this rule would provide the entrepreneur a 5 year stay (2+3 additional if the start-up is doing well), but I don't see any mention of granting a green card, so what would happen to that entrepreneur on year 6? EDIT: from the medium link posted in another comment by yurisagalov: > DHS will also publish guidance to clarify when entrepreneurs may self-petition for lawful permanent residence (also known as…

It appears, it has the same issue as H-1B visas. At least in my opinion. If your business fails and you invested 5 years of your life, you are kicked out of the country and have to move your family and everything back to wherever you came from. This big uncertainty of the future is, in my opinion, a huge negative of both H1B and this parole.

I depends a bit on the details as to whether you are allowed to start on startup #2 if #1 fails without leaving.

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post #50
post #13

Summary: - New startup entity ( After 2 years, 3 years extension - Atleast 10% ownership and active role in startup - Atleast $500K additional funding OR $500K revenue with 20% growth OR 10 Full time Jobs 0

Spousal Employment Authorization Document (EAD) is huge. IIRC, H1B spouses (ie, H4Bs) were recently allowed, but only if the H1B holder is applying for legal residency - which can take a while. In this case, you can get an EAD for your spouse as soon as you get your parole.

WOW. This instantly makes this program substantially better than many other visas. The difference between a working spouse and not is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars - especially over a 5 year time frame. This is better than the O1!!

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is setting up in she Shenzhen any easier for foreigners? I wouldn't be surprised if it was harder.

I have been using a book called 'the Shenzhen insider's guide' [1] as a reference to help me understand what I need to do to setup something there. There is an entire chapter 'Business in Shenzhen' that lays out the groundwork needed to setup operations in Shenzhen and the different types of entities allowed to do business there. There may be advantages to having a Chinese partner in the setup. I am currently only at…

In my experience, if something is hard to do in the USA, it is much harder to in China, which doesn't really acknowledge immigrants. Now, this is just "by the book", which the USA takes much more seriously than China. Often times, the book in China isn't even written and all they will say is "没办法", your only option is a tourist visa where they wink you'll probably be ok, unless you are unlucky enough to be caught in some crackdown, then it's 6 or so months in Chinese detention before being deported.

Only be in China if you REALLY need to be there, otherwise it's a whole lot of pain without corresponding upside.

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post #7

The number doesn't quite work out: you got two years, and if the business can demonstrate passing certain benchmarks (500k funding or (500k revenue and 20% annual growth) or 10 'murican jobs), you get another 3 years. 5 years is enough if your business fails fast, but otherwise it's unlikely to be sufficient for building one (on average). This is a parole rather than a visa, so it still leaves the question on what's…

> 10 'murican jobs

I'm about the farthest thing there is from a SJW, but have you considered how people will interpret your use of the slang "`murican"?

To me, it sounds like a reference to a meme which paints persons from the southern part of the U.S. as parochial and unintelligent.

Have I misunderstood the reference?

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I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here. A few years ago, I noticed that Britain would give a blanket visa to anyone with an MBA from a list of top international schools. How about something like that for people with Masters/PhDs (in STEM) from top-50 schools in the world. That said, the proposed rule might mean if one gets into YC/techstars, etc. they would be able to get a visa for the US easily. The l…

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I wish having an advanced degree was a criteria here. A few years ago, I noticed that Britain would give a blanket visa to anyone with an MBA from a list of top international schools. How about something like that for people with Masters/PhDs (in STEM) from top-50 schools in the world. That said, the proposed rule might mean if one gets into YC/techstars, etc. they would be able to get a visa for the US easily. The l…

> How about something like that for people with Masters/PhDs (in STEM) from top-50 schools in the world.

Govt shouldn't be in the business of selecting 'best people', govt bureaucracy is not the right agent for this. Markets should decide who is the 'best' and who is needed . Govt should play the role of glorified recruiting agency.

Getting a degree is not a proof enough for visas/greencards.

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