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Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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Why not just make an iPhone case that has a carve-out for the payment card? That way you can use your payment card and not need your phone, too (like going outdoors, to the beach, etc). I ask because I've already seen iPhone cases like this in Japan. I use one with my Clipper card.

>Why not just make an iPhone case that has a carve-out for the payment card?

I too have seen this kind of product in Japan. The downside is that the case gets thick, the design is limited, and it doesn't look cool. As a former user for using Suica app of feature phones, the case product is apparently not optimal.

IMO users who put their phones in their pockets would gain the most benefit (mostly men I think). Women, especially in Japan, generally wear clothes that have no pockets and the phones are inside the handbags, which will have less benefit. It is not much different taking the card case or a phone from your handbag.

I have seen a brand handbag that has an inner pocket in the bottom to hold a Suica card. To use it, you just put the handbag on top of the ticket gate. This kind of product looks more suited to women in Japan.

Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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Finally. It's rather annoying taking out my Pasmo to get through the subway barriers when I can see Android users going through with a tap. Also, the article mentions mass transit navigation is coming for Maps. If that happens I'll get rid of Google Maps, which is almost useless as it now forces me to log in before doing anything useful.

Why are you taking out your Pasmo card instead of leaving it in your wallet?

My wallet was pretty fat and I had no problems tapping in and out with the card in my closed wallet. My phone had the ability to use Pasmo but I felt a lot safer banging my wallet against the gate every day instead of banging my phone against it.

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Finally. It's rather annoying taking out my Pasmo to get through the subway barriers when I can see Android users going through with a tap. Also, the article mentions mass transit navigation is coming for Maps. If that happens I'll get rid of Google Maps, which is almost useless as it now forces me to log in before doing anything useful.

Why are you taking out your Pasmo card instead of leaving it in your wallet? My wallet was pretty fat and I had no problems tapping in and out with the card in my closed wallet. My phone had the ability to use Pasmo but I felt a lot safer banging my wallet against the gate every day instead of banging my phone against it.

Sorry, I wasn't that clear. I meant taking it out of my pocket. I have a card case for it as I don't like carrying around a fat wallet.

My phone is usually already in my hand :)

Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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In other news, it will take NYC five years to implement tap and pay MetroCards.

The MTA is much more than 5 years behind on just about everything else, and MetroCards are one of the least annoying things about the subway I think, so I'm skeptical we'll see it anywhere near that soon.

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as it now forces me to log in before doing anything useful. It's still useful without logging in, searches and directions still work fine, they just have a big ugly prompt telling you to log-in. Just ignore it. The main functional things missing are stars, offline, and the personalized suggestion things that appear when you tap search boxes (which regrettably includes recent search history, probably the biggest thi…

> (which regrettably includes recent search history, probably the biggest thing missing from the not-signed-in experience) You work on it, why not change that? :)

Ever tried screaming into a deep dark well?

Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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post #9

London bypassed this and you just tag on/off with your standard contactless payment card, it only bills you once a day at the end. Used it last week with Apple Pay on my Phone, worked great!

> Used it last week with Apple Pay on my Phone, worked great!

Do be aware that if your phone battery runs out you may have to pay a penalty fare.

Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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post #9

London bypassed this and you just tag on/off with your standard contactless payment card, it only bills you once a day at the end. Used it last week with Apple Pay on my Phone, worked great!

> Used it last week with Apple Pay on my Phone, worked great! Do be aware that if your phone battery runs out you may have to pay a penalty fare.

If you use the underground in central london on a weekday there's a fair chance you'll be paying the maximum fare anyway

Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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Japan is great at some things. It's been common since about 2007 to pay for commuter trains, subway and buses by tapping your phone or contactless card. Meanwhile here in the UK, buses are still cash only (outside London) and they grumble if you don't have exact change for £3.70 or something.

Re: Apple Plans iPhone for Japan With Tap-to-Pay for Subways

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which Android phones support the IC Card system? I know my Nexus 5X only supports NFC.

I don't know. Here's a page that shows Suica support for JR; I have no idea if the subway companies use the same. I would generally think it would be Japanese handset manufacturers, so Sony, Sharp, etc. https://www.jreast.co.jp/mobilesuica/whats/models.html

Suica is compatible with almost everything else.

Japanese IC card compatibility diagram: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ICCard_Connection_en...

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