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Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by thewhitetulip »

skrowl wrote: post #75
zaidf wrote: post #30

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For me, Telegram's small user base is actually what got me on it. My whatsapp is full of way too many groups that I can't leave without negative social consequences. So the one group that I cared about the most (a group with my siblings), we all decided to move to Telegram and haven't looked back since! It's awesome to just have the few closest people on an app and not having to fear that you'll accidentally send a m…

They hit 100 million monthly active users back in Feb. I'm not sure that's a small user base by most of our terms. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telegram_(software)#Usage_numb...

I think they meant by the small user base in your friends. :)

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by Moru »

joering2 wrote: post #200
0xmohit wrote: post #68

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Most don't like hearing this: if you don't want your personal information to be shared, don't use these "social media" tools. I suspect that you'd be familiar with LinkedIn dark patterns [0] too. [0] https://medium.com/@danrschlosser/linkedin-dark-patterns-3ae...

> if you don't want your personal information to be shared, don't use these "social media" tools. Since Faceook is using cookies and is able to read your data from other websites than FB alone, can you please fix your sentence to read this: > if you don't want your personal information to be shared, don't use internet. period.

There are very simple blockers that can block all Facebook cookies on other homepages. uBlock for example has the option to remove all social media icons and that includes the tracking cookies.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by Joof »

pjc50 wrote: post #199
ed312 wrote: post #157

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Is email not sufficient to communicate with family, work associates, etc.?

Email is also under marketing surveillance, unless you refuse to correspond with anyone using gmail. I've known only one person willing to go to those lengths to make a point.

If you have a good alternative email I'd be down for that at least. Hosting your own turns out to be surprisingly difficult.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by intended »

throwanem wrote: post #205
tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #192

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"worked" is the key word here. When the letters were the common way to contact people, people would contact you by letter. If you refused to communicate in different ways than with letters, people would communicate less with you than with others, because it would be a pain in the ass. They'd organize a party on short notice, and then realize that the letter won't reach you in time (or that they don't have envelopes a…

Only more so. Back when people kept their address books in actual books , you wouldn't, for example, miss getting a wedding invitation, because you weren't sent one, because the people getting married forgot to think about anything except their Facebook contacts list when they made their invitation list. Because everyone's on Facebook. I almost caved, the second time that happened. What stopped me was being prompted…

Yeah, it is too over the top for most people. I don't move in tech circles, and the few friends who I do speak to about this, tend to dismiss this as tin foil hattery.

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Post by taejo »

nostrademons wrote: post #203
krisa wrote: post #173

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When you will try to actualy delete your fb account (at least when i did it some time ago). Its a minefield of dark patterns. First you need special link, because you can only deactivate from settings. Then you will have to go through pile of emotionaly draining photos of friends with claims that they will mis you and you wont be able to see what they are doing with their lives. Then few traps with agreeing about del…

I've heard that rather than deleting your FB account, it's better to turn it into a piece of obviously-fictitious performance art. Don't try to remove your data from the Internet (which is futile; you know Facebook still has it on some archive somewhere anyway). Instead, replace it with nonsense. Set your interests to your competitors so that you get notifications everytime they release a new feature, and full inform…

> which is futile; you know Facebook still has it on some archive somewhere anyway

If Facebook does this with the data of an EU resident, they are breaking the law. The Irish Data Protection Commissioner has audited Facebook and found that their deletion of user data was in compliance.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by mercer »

Joeboy wrote: post #130
mercer wrote: post #85

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Try to convince them anyways. Once they get past the grumbling of installing a new app and the entirely hypothetical inconvenience of having multiple chat apps, they'll realize that in practice it isn't really much cause for inconvenience.

Having to look in half a dozen apps to track down information is not a hypothetical inconvenience.

Oddly enough I expected to run into that problem, but in practice it's hardly ever been an issue. I think in my particular case it helps that I generally insist on using email or telegram for communication where it's important to find it again later.

But you're right. At times I've had to search for information because I didn't remember which communication tool we used.

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Post by hardlianotion »

omginternets wrote: post #26

I don't have the Share my Account option on Android.

Neither do I. My app was updated last night. I don't use Facebook, but I as I can't opt out I can't assure myself that the will be no sharing with their 'partners'. So I am out.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by tdkl »

maus42 wrote: post #259
tdkl wrote: post #257

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>it just appeared like we drifted apart. And that's life. Perhaps you weren't that close enough anyway to find about the child. And that's life too. The notion of "being connected" with all the people you knew is is similar then the "I need to be happy, if not something is wrong with me" and got introduced with modern social media (particularly Facebook).

But is it easier to 'drift apart' from people you know if you're the only one they need to remember specifically call or send email to, when they can in general assume that all their friends sort of follow their FB updates? But it's awkward if you're the only one who keeps contacting them . If you have already hard time building very durable friendships and are sort of hang-around member of your social circles, the s…

Yeah, the social media caters to peoples laziness (hence "connect to all the people you know easier"). But this connection is very shallow and as you said if you're the only one who is trying to maintain a connection apart from consuming "social broadcasts", well, then the relationship is destined to drift apart.

I guess it's a matter of personal preference, I rather have 3 good connections then 10 (not to mention 100, which is ridiculous) shallow ones and when we randomly see each other, there's no "guilt" looming around the meeting.

IMHO this coincides with two recent HN posts about accepting mediocrity [1] and stopping to eternally seek happiness [2].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12335367

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12345608

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