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Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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It's generally helpful if you don't trot out 2-3 year old claims. Both maps and Safari have had massive changes recently and both are if not on par with other companies it's really close. Apple has had issues with OS X reliability and music can be truly bad at times and iCloud (especially sync) is almost embarrassing. I'm a huge Apple fan and an iOS developer but they aren't without fault but if you are going to call…

Curious about your take on iCloud sync. Is that from a developer perspective (I remember the API initially sucked) or user perspective? I've never implemented iCloud sync in an app but at least with Apple's apps it works perfectly for me. I moved thousands of notes from Evernote to Notes which I use daily, I use calendars/contacts, I use Reading List, the credit card and password sync for Safari works really well. In…

Mostly from a developer side but a little from a user stand point. Parts of iCloud are pretty great, especially cloudkit, but sync itself is really hard to manage and have it work correctly. I've found it fairly common to have a decent amount the production support issues related to iCloud. That being said it's getting better IMO and I think once iOS 10 and Sierra are the default OS's it will be less of an issue.

Common problems include items not syncing, syncing out of time order, and conflict resolution causing synced data to appear lost. Most devs that are really serious about sync tend to roll their own after experiencing enough issues to make iCloud not worth the effort.

This is entirely based on my experience and may not be universally true but I've heard enough devs repeat my own complaints to feel like it's not completely out for left field.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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Perhaps they seek to win a game other than the one you have in mind.

I don't think there are any other game to win for a company like Apple.

Is it possible that this thought does not accurately reflect the reality of the matter?

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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It's taken me way out of the way, and through a toll bridge when that was not even close to the best way to go. Safari is bad because it's behind the times, and doesn't keep up with standards. Makes it really annoying to have to wait to use certain features because IE and Safari can't keep up.

> Safari is bad because it's behind the times, and doesn't keep up with standards Safari and WebKit has 100% support for ES6, which is more than any other browser - http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/ I think what you mean is Safari doesn't support the standards you want it to support, some of which aren't actually full standards yet but candidates.

hahahaha. Such bullshit. You're talking about Safari 10 which is in beta & no one actually uses. Look at 8 & 9. Much worse than any browser not named IE 11, and 8 is only marginally better. Seriously, i'm glad they're coming out with an up to date version, but it's been far too long in coming.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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Chrome and Firefox and Opera all keep up. Safari is worse than IE/Edge at this point in terms of implementing standards. It's the absolute worst because it's not even available for anything but Apple products now so it's a pain in the ass to test.

IE is dead. Edge is embryonic. I can't speak for Opera. I use Firefox every day, both as my personal browser and as my primary development target, with validation in other browsers performed via automated and manual testing. And, if Chrome is your standard, Firefox cannot honestly be said to "keep up". It's consistently a few versions behind, at least, in supporting major innovations which reliably appear first in Ch…

I'm a firefox user as well, and it's both my personal browser and development target. Safari is the only browser that consistently gives me issues.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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I don't think there are any other game to win for a company like Apple.

Is it possible that this thought does not accurately reflect the reality of the matter?

Sure but I doubt it.

Any company who want to win in the long run will have to take control of machine learning as a central part of their culture.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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A lot of their products are lacking though. Maps is awful. So is Safari.

Safari is my browser of choice and I have no issues with it (I much prefer it over Chrome). Maps has occasional issues but it's a solid product now. I use it for walking and transit directions and can't remember the last time I had to fall back on Google Maps.

Just the other week I realized that I hadn't launched Google Maps in something like 2 years so I finally deleted it.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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> Safari is bad because it's behind the times, and doesn't keep up with standards Safari and WebKit has 100% support for ES6, which is more than any other browser - http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/ I think what you mean is Safari doesn't support the standards you want it to support, some of which aren't actually full standards yet but candidates.

hahahaha. Such bullshit. You're talking about Safari 10 which is in beta & no one actually uses. Look at 8 & 9. Much worse than any browser not named IE 11, and 8 is only marginally better. Seriously, i'm glad they're coming out with an up to date version, but it's been far too long in coming.

Down voted but no rebuttal. typical.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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Nope, but it often tells me how long it will take to drive to work (I never drive to work), even when I'm on the other side of the country, on holiday, and has been for two weeks.

So glad I'm not the only one. How do you turn this crap off?

It will take 524 minutes to drive to work. Traffic is normal.

Re: How AI and Machine Learning Work at Apple

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Is it possible that this thought does not accurately reflect the reality of the matter?

Sure but I doubt it. Any company who want to win in the long run will have to take control of machine learning as a central part of their culture.

Which would appear to be what this article describes them doing.
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