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Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by cwkoss »

nostrademons wrote: post #220
CamperBob2 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've thought about posting some really over-the-top shock/porn imagery to my Facebook wall, basically making it look like it was hacked. Maybe then they'll cancel my account, like I've asked them to do several times.

Random evil thought: could you sell your Facebook account to hackers? You've built up a multi-year reputation as a "known good" account; that'd be incredibly valuable to someone trying to generate cross-correlations between your interests and their product. After all, the whole reason Facebook is worth $300B is because they have all this data on their users; since it's your data to begin with, shouldn't you be able m…

Someone needs to make a good market for this.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by harto »

nostrademons wrote: post #220
CamperBob2 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've thought about posting some really over-the-top shock/porn imagery to my Facebook wall, basically making it look like it was hacked. Maybe then they'll cancel my account, like I've asked them to do several times.

Random evil thought: could you sell your Facebook account to hackers? You've built up a multi-year reputation as a "known good" account; that'd be incredibly valuable to someone trying to generate cross-correlations between your interests and their product. After all, the whole reason Facebook is worth $300B is because they have all this data on their users; since it's your data to begin with, shouldn't you be able m…

It seems that would be confusing (at best) for your contacts that remain on Facebook.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by nostrademons »

harto wrote: post #222
nostrademons wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Random evil thought: could you sell your Facebook account to hackers? You've built up a multi-year reputation as a "known good" account; that'd be incredibly valuable to someone trying to generate cross-correlations between your interests and their product. After all, the whole reason Facebook is worth $300B is because they have all this data on their users; since it's your data to begin with, shouldn't you be able m…

It seems that would be confusing (at best) for your contacts that remain on Facebook.

Presumably you would tell them via backchannels (or even Facebook) that you were doing it.

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by rm_-rf_slash »

nostrademons wrote: post #220
CamperBob2 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've thought about posting some really over-the-top shock/porn imagery to my Facebook wall, basically making it look like it was hacked. Maybe then they'll cancel my account, like I've asked them to do several times.

Random evil thought: could you sell your Facebook account to hackers? You've built up a multi-year reputation as a "known good" account; that'd be incredibly valuable to someone trying to generate cross-correlations between your interests and their product. After all, the whole reason Facebook is worth $300B is because they have all this data on their users; since it's your data to begin with, shouldn't you be able m…

It could sour your relationships with actual friends. But if you're ok with them being deceptively advertised to, maybe they weren't such close friends to begin with...

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by taneq »

nostrademons wrote: post #220
CamperBob2 wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've thought about posting some really over-the-top shock/porn imagery to my Facebook wall, basically making it look like it was hacked. Maybe then they'll cancel my account, like I've asked them to do several times.

Random evil thought: could you sell your Facebook account to hackers? You've built up a multi-year reputation as a "known good" account; that'd be incredibly valuable to someone trying to generate cross-correlations between your interests and their product. After all, the whole reason Facebook is worth $300B is because they have all this data on their users; since it's your data to begin with, shouldn't you be able m…

I don't think "hackers" in this context is the right term for people who game the advertising/metadata industry. Maybe "independent advertisers"?

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by ganeshkrishnan »

omginternets wrote: post #51
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #34

Man, remember the late 90s and early 2000s, when the IM scene was a mess of incompatible networks like ICQ and AIM and MSN Messenger, and people were like "fuck this" and came up with this protocol that was interoperable with all the others through gateways and also it was extendable, and we could all be happy together?... /grump The worst part is that WhatsApp is actually based on Jabber >:(

I recently started looking into XMPP again a few days ago. I have a few ideas for projects built on top thereof. Can anybody recommend XMPP servers? I know duckduckgo has an XMPP service up and running, but I can't seem to find any relevant API documentation. All I found was this [0], which doesn't go into details about encryption settings and isn't very useful for programmatic interaction. [0] https://duck.co/blog/p…

I used tigase server and tried building an open source messaging client that you can use to chat as well as share your realtime location with your friends and groups : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.getintouch....

Never took off in developed world but I strangely got plenty of users in Iran & middle east

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by killbrad »

huskyr wrote: post #183
0xmohit wrote: post #68

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Most don't like hearing this: if you don't want your personal information to be shared, don't use these "social media" tools. I suspect that you'd be familiar with LinkedIn dark patterns [0] too. [0] https://medium.com/@danrschlosser/linkedin-dark-patterns-3ae...

This argument is become less and less valid as social media accounts become more and more indispensable for leading a normal modern life. Sure, you can still e-mail, call, sms or heck, even visit your friends and family IRL. But not having a social media account sure makes it more inconvenient. All your friends use these networks. In a couple of years not having a social media account will be seen as equivalent to no…

I'd argue it's more meaningful, not more cumbersome. Do you only exclusively communicate with people via Facebook today?

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by AceJohnny2 »

SamWhited wrote: post #87
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #42

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And yes, I absolutely realize that the protocol had flaws, was overly verbose, the base spec required a continuous connection which is hard/impossible on mobile networks, its extensibility meant that clients could end up with little common compatibility, etc etc... But still.

A continuous connection is actually desirable on mobile networks to save battery; your phone can turn the radio on to a power saving mode if you use a single TCP connection and no traffic is being sent and only wake it up again when it gets a paging message alerting it that there is new data to be sent down over the TCP connection. However, if you use something that requires multiple connections (eg. to poll and see…

Very tangential: which server do you personally use Conversations with, and does it have gateways to other networks?

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by e12e »

hointytointy wrote: post #56
omginternets wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently started looking into XMPP again a few days ago. I have a few ideas for projects built on top thereof. Can anybody recommend XMPP servers? I know duckduckgo has an XMPP service up and running, but I can't seem to find any relevant API documentation. All I found was this [0], which doesn't go into details about encryption settings and isn't very useful for programmatic interaction. [0] https://duck.co/blog/p…

Conversations.im has made great progress in making XMPP usable on mobile devices, although its services don't seem ready for public adoption quite yet. There are very few XMPP servers which support the XEPs Conversations does so while federation is theoretically possible, it is not yet a reality. https://account.conversations.im/

See also zom.im - wraps up otr and xmpp in a package along with boatload of cuteness - and is FOSS:

https://github.com/zom/Zom-Android

Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”

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Post by nashashmi »

I am reading the opt out agreement as far too specific. It says do not share info with Facebook for improved ads experience. MEANING SHARE info WITH FACEBOOK anyways, even if you are not interested in ads.

I don't want any of my info shared. Yet there is no way to opt out of it.

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