The original title is actually "This really might be the end of ITT" which I thought was clickbaity and didn't really explain the story.
ITT is no longer allowed to enroll students who rely on federal loans and grants
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#12Personally I don't think the government has the right to bar anyone from getting any kind of education. Yes, some of these are a shame, but the student might still learn something. And there's also the issue of time and scheduling. Many older people don't have the time to go to a traditional college and taking a 1 year program at night for a "2 year associates degree" fits them better. Even worse still, most of these…
It's not about barring anyone from an education, but about keeping federal aid from going to them.
Though, based on the article the fact that they're a for-profit institution seems tangential to the actual reason they're not allowed to accept federal aid because they're no longer accredited.
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#13Personally I don't think the government has the right to bar anyone from getting any kind of education. Yes, some of these are a shame, but the student might still learn something. And there's also the issue of time and scheduling. Many older people don't have the time to go to a traditional college and taking a 1 year program at night for a "2 year associates degree" fits them better. Even worse still, most of these…
> Personally I don't think the government has the right to bar anyone from getting any kind of education.
Not sure how you got that from the linked article.
Here is the issue:
ITT is under threat of having its accreditation revoked, which could lead its 137 campuses to close and result in tens of thousands of students seeking loan forgiveness.
The federal government stands to lose millions of dollars in student loan repayments if ITT loses accreditation. Same thing happened with Corinthian Colleges last year - https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/about/announcements/corinthian
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#14This is incremental progress, it's just one school. But a crazy step in the right direction. For-Profit institutions are a plague on our nation (high-cost low-value educations) allowed to rise up out of the failings of our strained public institutions (not enough capacity to meet demand).
What really blows my mind is that this seems to come after the justice department discontinues for profit federal prisons. It's like all that "change" we were hoping for with Obama seems to be coming at once.
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#15This is incremental progress, it's just one school. But a crazy step in the right direction. For-Profit institutions are a plague on our nation (high-cost low-value educations) allowed to rise up out of the failings of our strained public institutions (not enough capacity to meet demand). What really blows my mind is that this seems to come after the justice department discontinues for profit federal prisons. It's li…
Is that really shocking? That's the kind of thing that happens when a president is leaving, and doesn't have to worry about another term, or in this case, campaigning for anyone.
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#16This is incremental progress, it's just one school. But a crazy step in the right direction. For-Profit institutions are a plague on our nation (high-cost low-value educations) allowed to rise up out of the failings of our strained public institutions (not enough capacity to meet demand). What really blows my mind is that this seems to come after the justice department discontinues for profit federal prisons. It's li…
When the discontinuation of federal prison article came up on hacker news I commented, "Now if we could only outlaw for-profit schools!"
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#17Personally I don't think the government has the right to bar anyone from getting any kind of education. Yes, some of these are a shame, but the student might still learn something. And there's also the issue of time and scheduling. Many older people don't have the time to go to a traditional college and taking a 1 year program at night for a "2 year associates degree" fits them better. Even worse still, most of these…
The government has no right to bar you from traveling.
The government has no constitutional obligation to pay for your plane ticket.
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#18This is incremental progress, it's just one school. But a crazy step in the right direction. For-Profit institutions are a plague on our nation (high-cost low-value educations) allowed to rise up out of the failings of our strained public institutions (not enough capacity to meet demand). What really blows my mind is that this seems to come after the justice department discontinues for profit federal prisons. It's li…
When the discontinuation of federal prison article came up on hacker news I commented, "Now if we could only outlaw for-profit schools!"
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#19The original title is actually "This really might be the end of ITT" which I thought was clickbaity and didn't really explain the story.
That was definitely baity and you were right to change it (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html).
But we always prefer a title to use representative language from the article itself, where possible, so I've done that above.
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#20This is incremental progress, it's just one school. But a crazy step in the right direction. For-Profit institutions are a plague on our nation (high-cost low-value educations) allowed to rise up out of the failings of our strained public institutions (not enough capacity to meet demand). What really blows my mind is that this seems to come after the justice department discontinues for profit federal prisons. It's li…
When the discontinuation of federal prison article came up on hacker news I commented, "Now if we could only outlaw for-profit schools!"
What's wrong with someone educating people and making a profit while doing it?