Remember when Whatsapp got bought? Respect for your privacy is coded into our DNA, and we built WhatsApp around the goal of knowing as little about you as possible [...] If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it. Instead, we are forming a partnership that would allow us to continue operating independently and autonomously. Our fundamental values and beliefs will not…
WhatsApp is going to share your phone number with Facebook
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#72Remember when Whatsapp got bought? Respect for your privacy is coded into our DNA, and we built WhatsApp around the goal of knowing as little about you as possible [...] If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it. Instead, we are forming a partnership that would allow us to continue operating independently and autonomously. Our fundamental values and beliefs will not…
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Re: WhatsApp is going to share your phone number with Facebook
#73Remember when Whatsapp got bought? Respect for your privacy is coded into our DNA, and we built WhatsApp around the goal of knowing as little about you as possible [...] If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it. Instead, we are forming a partnership that would allow us to continue operating independently and autonomously. Our fundamental values and beliefs will not…
I think it is just a matter of time before FB starts influencing elections to suit THEIR agenda (assuming they have not already started). Remember the experiment where they tried to deliberately influence people's emotions? [1] FB is now effectively a super creepy uber-government.
[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/29/facebook-...
Question to anyone who works at Facebook: how come you promptly participate in the latest HN announcement of the newest JavaScript open source framework from FB and never bother to show up on these threads. Is ethics just completely off the table when you step foot inside the company doors? I remember someone talking about Zynga the company having "sold their soul". Not that Zynga doesn't rank very high on that chart, but boy, does FB absolutely top that list by a wide margin.
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#74I'm surprised it took them so long.
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#75What's the value of WhatsApp? It is the scale of the product. I use it because most of my friends are on it. There are many other alternatives to WhatsApp as pointed out by many in this thread, but none of them have nearly the same traction. The only business model that allows such scale is the ad supported model. If WhatsApp was subscription based, I am sure they could not have achieved this scale. And I wouldn't ha…
WhatsApp is Ad supported? I don't think so. I believe until last year they were subscription based.
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#76I'm like 99% certain they've been doing this for a while. I've noticed that anybody I talk to using WhatsApp quickly appears as a suggested contact on Facebook. As far as I'm aware, I did nothing to enable this. It does seem awfully creepy, but I guess if you care about privacy you're not using Facebook much anyway…
I just looked at the suggested friends page: among the first recommended friends there is a person I've never met in person, but a friend of mine sent me a picture of their business card via Whatsapp. I sent this person an e-mail a couple of days ago, but it was gmail -> gmail. Maybe this person stalked me and that is why she appeared on my suggested friends page?
I think that's it. In quite a few of these 'creepy connections' I think it's usually something similar. If other people are anything like me, the first thing they'll do - when convenient - is to look you up on facebook.
That doesn't make it less creepy of course, but it can explain many, if not most of these situations.
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#77This has been going on for the longest. My Facebook is for family and friends and no coworkers. Google+ and Linkedin for coworkers. I have some of my coworkers phone numbers, and have never exchanged whatsApp messages with them. About earlier this year they all started showing up on my Facebook suggestions. I don't have Facebook app, I only use it through the web interface so it's not like they got to scan my contact…
Re: WhatsApp is going to share your phone number with Facebook
#78What's the value of WhatsApp? It is the scale of the product. I use it because most of my friends are on it. There are many other alternatives to WhatsApp as pointed out by many in this thread, but none of them have nearly the same traction. The only business model that allows such scale is the ad supported model. If WhatsApp was subscription based, I am sure they could not have achieved this scale. And I wouldn't ha…
Almost every one of those people grumbled at first about having to install another app. But because of how the dominant phone UI's work, it turns out to be almost frictionless.
I barely notice whether I get a message through WhatsApp, Telegram, or Facebook Messenger, because I either tap on the notification - and go right to the app and they all look basically the same - or I reply from the notification itself.
There's one friend who is so used to WhatsApp that he'll generally initiate conversations through that, even though I tend to initiate or further conversations in Telegram. Neither of us ever made a comment about it.
I hope I'm right, which means Facebook's stranglehold on communication and personal data might not be as strong as it appears. But I suspect they'll soon rollout more WeChat-like features such as payment, apps and bots that are a lot stickier.
For example, I've been playing around with a number of Telegram bots, and for the first time since I started using all these different chat apps, I am bothered when I have to use a non-Telegram app, because it doesn't support my bots (ranging from silly gif-search-bots to more useful poll-bots). Payment integration would be even 'stickier'.
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#79This has been going on for the longest. My Facebook is for family and friends and no coworkers. Google+ and Linkedin for coworkers. I have some of my coworkers phone numbers, and have never exchanged whatsApp messages with them. About earlier this year they all started showing up on my Facebook suggestions. I don't have Facebook app, I only use it through the web interface so it's not like they got to scan my contact…
Search is another explanation. Almost everyone I know, including myself, will search for pretty much anyone they interact with once they know a name. We're just too curious.
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#80Remember when Whatsapp got bought? Respect for your privacy is coded into our DNA, and we built WhatsApp around the goal of knowing as little about you as possible [...] If partnering with Facebook meant that we had to change our values, we wouldn’t have done it. Instead, we are forming a partnership that would allow us to continue operating independently and autonomously. Our fundamental values and beliefs will not…
Does anyone actually believe a word which these companies say? I think if at all there was a company which deserved some serious scrutiny under anti-trust, it was Facebook. Much more than Google or MSFT. They have done exactly the things which is supposed to be prevented by antitrust - I mean the "spirit of the law" and not the letter of the law. But hey, there are SO many social networks - look at LinkedIn, look at…