My problem with whatsapp is that there's no way to use it without giving access to my entire contact list to the app. And that's out of the question for me.
“How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”
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#22Are we supposed to congratulate WhatsApp for doing something that should be expected with 1.0? Furthermore, your default is incorrect; sharing info is opt-in.
> your default is incorrect; sharing info is opt-in.
Uh, I mean, that's the whole point of facebook.
Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”
#23Or... you know... just use something like Telegram that isn't owned by Facebook. Their data-sharing / privacy policy is pretty simple https://telegram.org/privacy 1. Sharing data We never share your data with anyone. No.
Who finances Telegram? Who pays for the serves?
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
If only more people used Telegram.. I love it, but only a couple of friends use it.
There was a serious FUD campaign started by one of the developers of now competing app Signal a few years ago. Now if you mention Telegram on Reddit you're immediately bombed with "OMG TELEGRAM CRYPTO IS BROKEN!" even though 0 people on earth have ever provably decrypted a Telegram message. They even offered a $300K bounty where you could act as the server... no takers.
Somehow, I don't think you are going to find more sympathy for Telegram's broken crypto (or Signal's "FUD" campaign) here on HN.
At the end of the day, for many nerds looking at these two pieces of software and their developers-- Moxie comes out looking a lot more serious about privacy and more experienced with crypto than Nikolai and Pavel. To say nothing of Telegrams closed source cloud app model, questionable financing strategy or debatable ties to the Russian intelligence apparatus.
Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”
#25Help me understand this, they have enabled end-to-end encryption for personal and group chats. Then, how is it possible to use message data to serve FB ads?
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#26I don't have the Share my Account option on Android.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
If only more people used Telegram.. I love it, but only a couple of friends use it.
There was a serious FUD campaign started by one of the developers of now competing app Signal a few years ago. Now if you mention Telegram on Reddit you're immediately bombed with "OMG TELEGRAM CRYPTO IS BROKEN!" even though 0 people on earth have ever provably decrypted a Telegram message. They even offered a $300K bounty where you could act as the server... no takers.
I don't have skin in this game, but I want to mention that contests are not evidence of security. Furthermore, cryptographers other than those working at Signal have expressed distrust for its security.[1][2]
What Telegram should do to earn the trust of the technical community (specifically, the security savvy people who criticize it for unorthodox encryption methodologies), is contract a real audit from a leading security firm that specializes in cryptanalysis, like Riscure.
[1]: https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/72642891296898252...
Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
If only more people used Telegram.. I love it, but only a couple of friends use it.
There was a serious FUD campaign started by one of the developers of now competing app Signal a few years ago. Now if you mention Telegram on Reddit you're immediately bombed with "OMG TELEGRAM CRYPTO IS BROKEN!" even though 0 people on earth have ever provably decrypted a Telegram message. They even offered a $300K bounty where you could act as the server... no takers.
Does Telegram use E2E encryption by default now, yes or no?
Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”
#29I don't see the data sharing opt-out thingie with FB as the big news today.
The big news is that your eye-balls are officially for sale now. Marketing is specifically mentioned as a new form of communication towards the users. No banner ads (yet), but other formats.
It was good, while it lasted.
PS to WhatsApp: If you manage to launch a no-data-sale privacy option for x$/y, I signup in a heartbeat.
Re: “How do I choose not to share my account information with Facebook?”
#30Or... you know... just use something like Telegram that isn't owned by Facebook. Their data-sharing / privacy policy is pretty simple https://telegram.org/privacy 1. Sharing data We never share your data with anyone. No.
If only more people used Telegram.. I love it, but only a couple of friends use it.
For me, Telegram's small user base is actually what got me on it. My whatsapp is full of way too many groups that I can't leave without negative social consequences. So the one group that I cared about the most (a group with my siblings), we all decided to move to Telegram and haven't looked back since! It's awesome to just have the few closest people on an app and not having to fear that you'll accidentally send a message to the wrong person or group.