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Israel deploys automated military robots

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Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Can't we just get a kind of programmer's Hippocratic oath going here? Let's just all not facilitate autonomous shooting. I know both sides of the argument. I know it won't prevent it being done. I just mean if enough people agreed not to do it, then we'd at least generate enough disapproval for it not to be the subject of any PR Puff.

Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

That's not what's going to happen. One side will have robots, the other will have humans.

This is already happening.

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Can't we just get a kind of programmer's Hippocratic oath going here? Let's just all not facilitate autonomous shooting. I know both sides of the argument. I know it won't prevent it being done. I just mean if enough people agreed not to do it, then we'd at least generate enough disapproval for it not to be the subject of any PR Puff.

Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

You're assuming the robots will be fighting other robots, which is... not the case.

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

What would the robots be fighting for?

Power.

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Can't we just get a kind of programmer's Hippocratic oath going here? Let's just all not facilitate autonomous shooting. I know both sides of the argument. I know it won't prevent it being done. I just mean if enough people agreed not to do it, then we'd at least generate enough disapproval for it not to be the subject of any PR Puff.

Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

I assume that these devices will mainly being deployed against enemies not having those. Main advantage: no chance of mercy. Extremely valuable in civil wars...

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Can't we just get a kind of programmer's Hippocratic oath going here? Let's just all not facilitate autonomous shooting. I know both sides of the argument. I know it won't prevent it being done. I just mean if enough people agreed not to do it, then we'd at least generate enough disapproval for it not to be the subject of any PR Puff.

Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

Sounds good but the problem is, once all the robots of one side are killed, the winning side robots will attack and start to kill the losing side humans.

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Can't we just get a kind of programmer's Hippocratic oath going here? Let's just all not facilitate autonomous shooting. I know both sides of the argument. I know it won't prevent it being done. I just mean if enough people agreed not to do it, then we'd at least generate enough disapproval for it not to be the subject of any PR Puff.

Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

The issue isn't robots versus robots of course, it's robots versus humans. Robots are far less squishy and compassionate than their human friends.

Now if there were a treaty stating that all wars are to be fought in a robot battle arena, and the event was available to stream on Netflix, count me in.

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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Can't we just get a kind of programmer's Hippocratic oath going here? Let's just all not facilitate autonomous shooting. I know both sides of the argument. I know it won't prevent it being done. I just mean if enough people agreed not to do it, then we'd at least generate enough disapproval for it not to be the subject of any PR Puff.

Isn't it better to have robots fighting and dying than humans? War sucks, and I do wish that we could have world peace. But if war is going to happen, I'd rather it be robots that are the ones in harm's way.

We are fighting asymmetric wars where one side frequently doesn't have the resources or knowledge to use robots.

These robots will make it easier to kill people by reducing your own risk. I doubt they will reduce the amount of lives lost. At the very least the calculus is quite a bit more complicated. I doubt we will see robots fighting each other …

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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I would be more impressed if their opponent were more technically sophisticated. You have people pretending to build a tank on one hand and people with automated robots on the other? Seems a bit overkill and pointless IMHO.

It's unfair, yes. But how is it unimpressive?

Re: Israel deploys automated military robots

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> The article hints that that is technically possible, but also states that it is not implemented. bool auto_fire = false; // Don't forget to set to false before deployment

Prod/staging environments now taken seriously

As if...
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