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4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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I usually don't manage to fall asleep before 2am. That would probably be why you don't wake up naturally at 4AM Talking about waking up early puts the cart before the horse. It's really about going to sleep early, IMO.

Whatever. If I go to bed early, I roll in my bed for 2, then 4, then 6 hours and not find any sleep. And that's on a good day. On a bad one, it will be for 8 hours and then it's time to wake up. When I was a kid, my folks put me in bed every evening at 8 PM, sharing the same false assumption as you. And I spent hours after hours watching the darkness. I would almost always fall asleep later than them, and often not u…

I was talking about my parent's:

I have also never woken naturally before 9am

Maybe my parent also has trouble falling asleep early like you. But my point is just that you aren't going to wake up early, unless you fall asleep early- when you fall asleep drives when you wake up.

If you like your sleep schedule, that's fine. It sounds like you are controlled by it though. I have found melatonin helpful for moving my sleep schedule when it gets out of hand.

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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I'm one of those unlucky types that have the hardest time waking up and getting going in the morning. Mentally I'm at 50% or less. Is there anyone else like this who's found techniques or other methods of overcoming the slow start?

I was like this until I had sinus surgery. Turns out I had a deviated septum and chronic sinus infection that made my breathing pretty shitty while I slept.

Were there any symptoms of this while you were awake?

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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I suppose that people on their death bed are pretty much biased, hardly less than average population. Human memory is quite imperfect and selective.

Inevitably, some day, you will empathize.

Definitely! I have hard time understanding my future self, and my future self may have hard time understanding me as of now. People change, and what feels important at medium term (a few years) also changes. There's hardly a single right answer good for all ages.

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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I was like this until I had sinus surgery. Turns out I had a deviated septum and chronic sinus infection that made my breathing pretty shitty while I slept.

Were there any symptoms of this while you were awake?

Yes- in retrospect, my nasal breathing was unpredictable... I would breathe unevenly through my nostrils, and sometimes have difficulty with both.

I was also prone to sinus infections... sometimes low-grade ones that just hung around for weeks and felt like allergies.

I thought this was how it was for everyone for years. After my surgery it was night and day.

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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Interesting article! The Rishi's and Yogi's in India always woke up at 4 in the morning. In the Hindu Yogic philosophy this time period is also called the Brahma Muhurta. If anyone is interested, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmamuhurtha and http://hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/537/what-is-the-...

I HATE INDIANS FUCK YOU

You created an account just to post this asinine comment? How jobless can one be!

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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You don't want a complete pushover, though, otherwise nothing ever gets done while your team is busy playing video games all week. What you want is a reasonable boss!

Additionally, pushover bosses won't stand up for you when Scope creep starts to happen. Before long you will have 20 new change requirements to do in the last few days because someone decided they like the old-old way. (ie the code you just tore apart to appease their previous request)

What's worse is having a boss that's a pushover in one direction. From above, it's always whatever upper management wants, and to his team, it's do it now or you're fired.

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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Here I thought I'd be getting some validation for being a night owl. 4 AM is my most productive hour. It's just that I haven't gone to bed yet then. What's this "up before the sun rises" stuff? It's productive because the day is just coming to a close.

It seems like the common thread between early risers and night owls is that they both find their most productive time during a period when people don't normally socialize, so that they can avoid meetings and have some 'maker time'. They don't seem all that different on the face of it, it's just a shame that society considers one productive and the other less so. Probably because night owl hours coincide with those of…

> Nobody gets up early to party all morning.

You clearly haven't been to Berlin yet.

(I do agree with your post, though.)

Re: 4 a.m. Is the Most Productive Hour

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Or that we're so alienated from it that weve forgotten just how worthwhile it is

Yeah, we forgot how lucky it is for slaves and sex exploitation victims to be fed. They should count their blessings instead of complaining...

Hard working Japanese employees are considered slaves and sex exploited? That's a pretty offensive thing to say.
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