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Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

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Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

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The copy on this page is super unclear. I just realized(after signing up) that the subscription is to get the special $2/ride pricing, not the actual ride. Put another way: after you have the $30/month subscription, you can get UberPools for $2/ride.

I thought that was clear. What were you confusing that with? I'm trying to understand what you initially thought it was.

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

#32

> Flat fares are designed to cover full fares for almost every trip, with a $20 limit for uberPOOL and $25 limit for uberX. You’ll be responsible for paying portions of the fare that exceed those maximums on each trip. The pricing felt convoluted even before I saw this part. I can't see this being worth the effort, if you can't even guarantee the $7 prices.

They do need some way to prevent people from taking a $500 trip on a flat fare.

However, it seems like they could handle that with something like "Must start and end in San Francisco, with a single destination" (meaning, not a "go here, wait for me to get back, then go here" trip).

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

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post #28
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The overage feels generous to me. I'm not sure there's much of SF you can't get to with $25, even in traffic. It seems like this is their way of addressing the problem of "being in the car". If you get in the car with your $7 UberX pass, then demand to go to San Jose, something has to happen. Getting out of the car is probably worse for the customer, so they cap the amount this pass buys you, knowing you'll never hit…

Going to San Jose is explicitly not covered "when your trip begins and ends north of Cesar Chavez St. in San Francisco."

You can go to New York and your trip could still begin and end north of Cesar Chavez St. in San Francisco.

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

#34
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Margaret Thatcher once said "The problem with socialism is, you eventually run out of other people's money", which makes it ironic and humorous that Uber, the poster child of Valley Objectivism, has basically the same problem with their "price dumping funded by VCs" model.

The key difference being that in the case of Uber, those VCs and investors gave their money voluntarily.

One can still run out of voluntarily obtained money.

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same reaction when I rode UberPool from the south bay into SF (a 45 minute ride) for just under $18, and nobody else pooled with me. How could this be fair to the drivers? So I asked the driver how much he was getting for the trip. I believe he said something like $50. Fortunately, he wasn't getting shortchanged. Later, someone pointed out to me that Lyft and Uber are aggressively competing right now. It se…

> for just under $18, and nobody else pooled with me. How could this be fair to the drivers? So I asked the driver how much he was getting for the trip. I believe he said something like $50 Quite the business model. I wonder if they really believe they're earning goodwill at the rate of an Andrew Jackson per ride?

It'll look better when they dont have to pay any drivers anything at all

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

#36
post #15
post #7

I used Pool last night in the city. Took me from the Fidi to Inner Richmond. $2.37. It was almost cheaper than Muni. I can't imagine the drivers are making much at all .

I was chatting with my Uber driver last week and he said he preferred Uber, because they guarantee $1500 a week provided you accept a certain amount of rides. This is in SF.

Evey Lyft/Uber driver I've ever spoken to always prefers Lyft. Then again I've never used Uber.

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

#38
post #17

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Because taxis don't do this??

I knew this would be one of the replies! Just because others do it, it doesn't mean everyone else should be doing it. Also, now there are not only bad taxis, but also bad Ubers! I feel like there are a lot more Ubers in an area than there are cabs. So I will get annoyed more often by an Uber than a cab.

Yeah well thanks to Uber there are fewer cabs.

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

#39
post #7

I used Pool last night in the city. Took me from the Fidi to Inner Richmond. $2.37. It was almost cheaper than Muni. I can't imagine the drivers are making much at all .

I had the same reaction when I rode UberPool from the south bay into SF (a 45 minute ride) for just under $18, and nobody else pooled with me. How could this be fair to the drivers? So I asked the driver how much he was getting for the trip. I believe he said something like $50. Fortunately, he wasn't getting shortchanged. Later, someone pointed out to me that Lyft and Uber are aggressively competing right now. It se…

> It seems that Uber might be artificially deflating its prices to try and kill the competition, or discourage new companies from even entering the market.

Or they are just trying to tread water until they can remove drivers as a cost. If Uber can use VC money to pay current driver and then use more VC money to purchase a self driving fleet, they just have to wait it out until their current prices become profitable.

Re: Uber launches flat fares in San Francisco through subscription

#40
post #7

I used Pool last night in the city. Took me from the Fidi to Inner Richmond. $2.37. It was almost cheaper than Muni. I can't imagine the drivers are making much at all .

I had the same reaction when I rode UberPool from the south bay into SF (a 45 minute ride) for just under $18, and nobody else pooled with me. How could this be fair to the drivers? So I asked the driver how much he was getting for the trip. I believe he said something like $50. Fortunately, he wasn't getting shortchanged. Later, someone pointed out to me that Lyft and Uber are aggressively competing right now. It se…

Full loads have been offsetting partial loads all along for airport shuttles, trains, buses, cargo, planes etc, the maths is probably in Uber's favor even without having to compete with Lyft.
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