Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
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Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#202I just went through my first interview after 2 and half months of being unemployed. I did have some anxiety initially, but I learnt to work through it. My telephone interview with a hot startup didn't go as planned and I was turned down. It felt like I wouldn't get a job anymore. It's important to look back to see where you started and what you've achieved. Not doing good at an interview doesn't mean you are worthles…
I totally agree with everything you said, but often one doesn't really know what the process will be like until you're in it. I know it sounds weird, but it takes superhuman effort to back out when you're on site and being subjected to this stuff.
It is easier if you start off with a questioning attitude. For example - in a recent interview with a CTO, I asked why their glassdoor reviews are so bad. Then mentioned that as part of MY process to find a job - if we both choose to go further, "I'll want to meet with your lead dev, marketing person, and a customer of yours". Now, you have set your expectations of them. You are putting them on notice: You care, you are experienced, you want to learn, you are ballsy (fun ballsy!).
When you find yourself "Why the fuck is this interviewer asking me the same bullshit question" or "This guy is a douche - I don't want to keep talking to him, never mind work with him" or "I don't want to waste anyone else's time...I hate their cafeteria.." Whatever. Say something simple and honest like " look, this has been informative - but I'm getting the vibe that we won't be a great fit for each other" or "I think I can help you guys out - but it seems like many challenges you face would need X or Y skill to do it really well, right?" or "I appreciate your time too much to keep going - you have a nice team but, {insert true reason here}, what do you think?".
I've had this approach turn things around where they have asked me why I want to stop the process and ask for feedback. This also makes you stand out as knowing yourself well and being able to make tough decisions. Interviewers remember how you make them feel, not the right answer to a question they already knew.
Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#203Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#204I have two suggestions:
1) Don't equate your sense of self-worth to your tech employment. This requires making friends outside of tech, and pursuing hobbies. If you need medical help, get it sooner rather than later (anxiety, depression, ADHD, etc. are a lot more common than you would think).
2) There are thousands of tech companies out there. It is BS to say smaller companies are worse than the big 4 tech companies. You seem to be someone who cares about making a meaningful contribution. I respect that and share that with you. I strive to earn my pay every day. In truth, I fail many days, and some days I feel I earned my pay 100 times over. So it evens out.
One final note ... some interviewers are assholes. They make you feel like shit. A youngin will take it, but older folks know how to spot it. My last Google interview, I had 4 interviewers who were professionals and one complete ass-hat. I considered making the HR person know about said ass-hat but decided against it. If I encounter such an ass-hat in the future, I think I will tell HR so the person's damage may be contained. For my part, I'm not interviewing at Google any more (this was my n'th interview with them and frankly, I'm tired of it even though it seems they are not).
Anyways ... be happy my friend ... life is a precious gift; tech moves constantly - it is brutal but it is fun.. check out the stories of people like John Bardeen, Robert Noyce, the Whatsapp founder, John Carmack, etc. Even the great achievers have had to go through tons of crap.
Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#205OP- it sounds like you are experiencing a high level of anxiety & depression. Speaking from similar experience, the world can look very bleak at times. And interviews can be very stressful. Definitely counseling & medication can help. Please know that your worthiness is not defined by your job, or your position. Try to imagine yourself talking to a son/daughter and what you might say to them if they shared the same t…
Holy Shit. This is so simple but resonated very strongly with me. This is definitely a new "mindful moment" trigger whenever I'm too tough on myself. Little learnings like this make my day. Thanks!
Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Healthy minds never see this as an option. Suicidal thoughts are a sickness, never a forgone conclusion. That's a bit too broad of a statement. This kind of thinking is hurtful to the Right to Die movement. There are people in situations such that suicide is absolutely an option to a healthy mind.
First of all OP is not dying. But there is a crucial distinction to be made between suicidal thoughts being a forgone conclusion in one's mind, and someone sanely exercising the right to die peacefully. The inability to distinguish these two would be far more harmful. > suicide is absolutely an option You said it yourself. Option, not forgone conclusion. But I would go as far as to say exercising one's right to choos…
What are you arguing against, exactly? You said a bunch of absolutes.
Healthy minds never see this as an option. Suicidal thoughts are a sickness
You apparently realize they're not actually absolutes. End of thread.
But I would go as far as to say exercising one's right to choose one's death should not even be called suicide
Pedantry isn't very helpful here, nor is ex post facto modifying the definition of the words you used to match your intention. You may not think it should be called suicide, but that's not how language works. When you use the word "suicide" what matters is how others understand it, not yourself. You're not leaving comments for yourself to read, presumably.
Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#207For the "not feeling intelligent", I've had that happen to me, but this book called, Mindset the New Psychology of Success, really helped me because it teaches you that hard work, dedication and willingness to learn are what made you smart, not that you were born naturally smart.
Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#208For the "not feeling intelligent", I've had that happen to me, but this book called, Mindset the New Psychology of Success, really helped me because it teaches you that hard work, dedication and willingness to learn are what made you smart, not that you were born naturally smart.
Re: Ask HN: Failed interview, feeling unemployable and depressed – what do I do?
#209(1) You have an income currently, and that gives you time to explore new opportunities, be that education or employment. Take the time to find something that you will fit your needs, instead of only the other way around.
(2) I might be getting testy in my later years, but if I company wants to interview me with "puzzles" I question their judgement, and thus my interest in working with them. I believe that interviews are two way discussions, and if the hiring team turns them into games where they have the advantage, I would look elsewhere.