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David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by grinich »

allyt wrote: post #28
ryanhuff wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am impressed and dismayed by your experience. My 2 year old MBP (pre-unibody) gets only 45-60 minutes of battery time. Did the unibody MBP's see that much of a boost in battery performance?

Yes. Apple completely changed battery designs between the removable and the non-removable versions. The latter will last significantly longer.

Here's a video from Apple with a fantastic overview of the new tech:

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/overlays/battery-video.html#...

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by jsz0 »

blehn wrote: post #13

finger prints everywhere, illegible in sunlight, poor ebook selection, too heavy for extended use, miserable typing experience...seems like these points would apply to "Everyone Else" as well, no?

They're a bit on the nit picky side. Could certainly be deal breaker for some people but we know lots of technology is sold with finger print loving touch screens, lots of it weighs more than 1.5lbs, most everything except e-ink is hard to read in sunlight. Amazon's Kindle app kind of makes the ebook selection thing invalid. Typing is probably the big one here that is going to apply to "everyone else" but, then again, lots of these people are slow typers anyway. I think he's trying to make the point that "everyone else" wouldn't consider those things absolute deal breakers since they already buy technology that fits some, most or all of those categories. At the same time I wouldn't go out of my way to convince anyone they should settle on those issues if they feel strongly about them.

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by ntoshev »

the iPad is not a laptop. It’s not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it’s infinitely more convenient for consuming it

I wonder if there is a killer app in algorithm-assisted sketching and drawing with your fingers on the iPad. Consider zooming, automatically having lines meet perfectly, having the "artistic" filters from Photoshop, different drawing tools, etc.

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by c1sc0 »

allenbrunson wrote: post #38

Pogue claims there will be 1,000 apps in the iPad app store on day one. If Apple will hurry up and finish reviewing my game, mine will be one of them. If that number is true -- only a measly thousand -- then I'm pretty excited. Based on the buzz I've heard in the blogosphere, and the chatter on Apple's own dev forums, I would have guessed more like ten thousand. At that number, competition for eyeballs is pretty fier…

That seems very low. At those numbers releasing anything on day 1 should pay off. I will be there with two apps hacked together in a single day each.

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by oliverkofoed »

Maybe it's just me, but i was hoping for deeper insight into how the device feels in day-to-day usage, not just a list of features that i might as well have read on Apples info pages.

Stuff like: how the device feels to sit with for longer periods of time, is it more natural to type with one finger or both thumbs when sitting, can i read while lying down... All the stuff that isn't just "it has this amount of ram, you can view videos and the web on it and...."

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by j053003 »

froo wrote: post #32
gloob wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that most troubled my grandmother when she got her computer wasn't the filesystem or the mouse/keyboard combination; it was the fact that the computer knew which emails she had looked at and which she hadn't. She found it very unnerving. Apologies if I've drifted off topic.

Not off topic, my grandmother just cannot use a mouse. She's sat in front of my PC and is absolutely baffled by it. I might as well have asked her to do Differential Calculus. However, I think the iPad will be different. If she's playing say, solitaire and wants to move something - she touches it with her finger and moves it. Easy.

Yep. Getting one for my grandfather for this very reason. The only computer he seems to be able to understand is the touchscreen photo-processing computer at Walgreens.

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by arethuza »

ntoshev wrote: post #43

the iPad is not a laptop. It’s not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it’s infinitely more convenient for consuming it I wonder if there is a killer app in algorithm-assisted sketching and drawing with your fingers on the iPad. Consider zooming, automatically having lines meet perfectly, having the "artistic" filters from Photoshop, different drawing tools, etc.

I want to get an iPad so I can try supporting this kind of interaction in OpenShapes (http://shap.es/docs) - probably using Raphaël http://raphaeljs.com/ as the rendering component

The bulk of OpenShapes is in JavaScript - so should be good fun making the editor work with the touch interface.

Re: David Pogue’s Review of the iPad from 2 Angles

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Post by usaar333 »

froo wrote: post #16
eli wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't think he wrote a split review because he's worried about fanboys. I think it's just what he said: people really seem to love or hate the iPad, based mostly on their background.

He's 100% correct too. Personally, the iPad isn't for me. I want less screen time in my life, not more - and the iPad doesn't fill any gaps that warrants me purchasing one for myself. That being said, I did order one for my grandmother. She's been pestering me about getting the Internet and I felt like it would be a device that was less daunting for her than a mouse/keyboard combination.

As someone who taught his grandmother to use a PC, I'm personally unconvinced that an iPad is a good option for older people.

The first issue is whether it is significantly less confusing than a PC. Sure, it is simpler (no multitasking), but when I was teaching my grandmother, multitasking was a 10% problem. She was mostly confused by the concept of hyperlinks, urls (when they weren't correctly formatted in emails, esp.), how to print, how to adjust font sizes, copy/paste, etc. The iPad certainly makes the concept of multiple windows easier to understand (by not allowing them), but there are still tons of issues with learning a computer.

On the negative side, it doesn't seem to be that good for an elderly person who may have some mobility issues. A desktop allows someone to position their head and hands in a reasonably comfortable way (head upright, hands below heart); I'm still not sure how the iPad is supposed to be used in a comfortable way. The iPad also has a significantly smaller screen and moving hands across the device might be a lot harder than using a mouse.

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Post by wr1472 »

ntoshev wrote: post #43

the iPad is not a laptop. It’s not nearly as good for creating stuff. On the other hand, it’s infinitely more convenient for consuming it I wonder if there is a killer app in algorithm-assisted sketching and drawing with your fingers on the iPad. Consider zooming, automatically having lines meet perfectly, having the "artistic" filters from Photoshop, different drawing tools, etc.

You mean something like I Love Sketch?

http://vimeo.com/1669862?pg=embed&sec=1669862

It looks cool, and would be suited to the ipad.

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Post by JunkDNA »

jsz0 wrote: post #11

It seems obvious the iPad is directly aimed at the larger net book market instead of the relatively small digital reader market. Not many people are going to carry and iPad and a laptop. If the iPad is a device you buy instead of a net book, which by extension is a device you buy instead of a larger more functional laptop, Apple may not have an uphill battle here. Net book customers have already decided they don't wa…

I know I'm not in the majority here, but as a person who commutes to work via a 40 minute train ride each way, the iPad would be very attractive in addition to a laptop. I'm pretty much glued to my iPhone during the entire ride. The small screen size can often be a problem, especially if I want to do something like post a comment here. Even though I have a 15" Macbook Pro, the ergonomics are all wrong to comfortably work on it. I have to work with the keyboard slid partially up my stomach with my arms in an awkward position because the screen angle isn't sufficient otherwise. It's also not connected to the network (thanks to no tethering from AT&T). The iPad would have near perfect ergonomics and connectivity that is way cheaper than what I would have to pay for an AT&T data plan and laptop dongle.
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