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Re: Fighting Cancer

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Okay, I hate to pile on to the advice section. Actually this is not advice, but just a random tip from a random person. I read a book this year that has several anecdotes of people in similar situations to your father-in-law. The doctor who wrote it is radical and outside of the mainstream. Yet, the things he writes make a ton of sense when you have nothing else to lose. It's a short read, and his clinical results sp…

How about you think about what you just said for a minute. How is this a situation of "nothing to lose"? You are talking about an extremely sick person who, based on the fact that he has extremely advanced heart disease, probably has a lot of difficulty just being there for his family, and trying to put his affairs in order. Do you think he has the time and capacity to go on an "extreme diet" on the strength of "why…

I'm sure that if you read Dr. Esselstyn research with advanced heart disease patients, you wouldn't be comparing it with hitting yourself in the head with a pillow.

Also, I don't know where you got the impression that it's a radical diet. Many people eat, and enjoy eating this way regularly.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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I've just saw my father die of cancer a week ago. Fortunately, he did this at home and was cared for by his own family, right to the end. I wouldn't describe this experience as sad or tragic. We knew for a while that the moment was coming. I was lucky enough to be with my dad when he took his last breath, and to have been able to say goodbye. I learned a lot about what to do and what not to do in the face of imminent…

I'd love if you could share, someday, the list of what to do / not to do. Thanks for your writing... And sorry for your loss.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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There is also this commonly held notion that if you "live right", with healthy habits, food, and exercise, you will live to 98 in perfect health, and probably die of an instant heart attack while in bed with a young lover. It's of course true that obesity and lack of exercise increase health risks at all ages, but that risk was never going to be 0. The notion that I mentioned basically makes health problems into a mo…

> There is also this commonly held notion that if you "live right" One of humanity's greatest questions is "Why do bad things happen to good people?" The inconvenient truth, of course, is that the universe is cold and uncaring, and random chance and statistics means that bad things will happen. But we humans hate that answer. We crave structure, patterns, cause and effect, order. Why did flooding destroy a city? You…

I've seen this described as the Just World fallacy. It's pretty engrained in our culture, with supposed religious mechanisms being gradually supplanted by pop scientific theories.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Just an interesting related tangent here: My father in law is dying of heart disease (will probably die in People see me upset and the first thing they say is he will get better, or, it will be ok. When I explain the situation, it's something like, "oh, well, I just KNOW he will get better. Don't worry" What? In case you are wondering: He has already had open heart 2 years ago, 4 of 5 arteries are completely blocked…

It is a really weird situation (I'm trying to put myself in your friends position). I guess I'd revert into this BS nice talk as a way to help you emotionally (even though I know it's BS). So -assuming that I do care and that situation makes me sad- what am I supposed to say? How could I really help?

A big hug, if they're the kind of person who likes hugs and you're close enough to hug. And not hiding your sadness while doing so.

Or "I'm sorry to hear that. Is there anything I can do?"

Or any general statement of empathy. I've been in a similar situation, and those were the best replies.

But everyone is different, so I'd ask a few more people what were good responses. Probably whatever multiple people mention is a good answer.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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> There is also this commonly held notion that if you "live right" One of humanity's greatest questions is "Why do bad things happen to good people?" The inconvenient truth, of course, is that the universe is cold and uncaring, and random chance and statistics means that bad things will happen. But we humans hate that answer. We crave structure, patterns, cause and effect, order. Why did flooding destroy a city? You…

I've seen this described as the Just World fallacy. It's pretty engrained in our culture, with supposed religious mechanisms being gradually supplanted by pop scientific theories.

Here's a well-researched and well-phrased blog post on the Just World Fallacy that you (and grandparent post) may find interesting: https://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/06/07/the-just-world-falla...

Re: Fighting Cancer

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I am not sure why cryonics are not in the menu of every reader here when he has the opportunity (you don't have it if you die in a sudden accident) to subscribe when it seems inevitable to die.

When I was about 16, I read Larry Niven's _A World Out of Time_. It left me with very mixed feelings about the matter. Unfortunately all the times I had the means to sign up for such, I didn't have the desire to. Tell me, what would you do if your spouse had no interest in cryonics but you did? It complicates the decision a lot.

For me it doesn't at all. As long as you wouldn't commit suicide if your spouse died, it is a clear yes.

Re: Fighting Cancer

#129
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No one said people should switch jobs. You are filling in the wrong blanks. Thinking outside the box doesn't come easy for you?

And what other meaning does "We're racing to get self-driving cars to save a lot fewer people" have in this context?

Many people are excited that self-driving cars could potentially save a million lives a year, which will be an incredible achievement.

We need that sort of excitement and effort for cancer research. Eventually 40% of Americans will get cancer, for example:

http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

Re: Fighting Cancer

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post #106

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THIS. First I am very sorry to hear about your condition. I sincerely wish you all the best in dealing with the scourge of cancer. Second, I can't backup your statement enough. Cancer is not related to diet or exercise, not one bit. Steve jobs got it and he lived on a vegetarian diet and lived a pretty zen lifestyle at home. Not a human, but my dog who was an inside dog rarely went out except to do her business, and…

Cancer risk is influenced by diet and exercise. You may not believe that it matters, but quite a bit of excellent scientific research disagrees with you. But you can never lower your risk to zero; there's always a chance. So given enough individuals there are always some with "perfect" lifestyle choices that still get cancer.

I agree 100%. I'd also add that it is possible that considering our biology is constantly evolving, genetic enhancements and defects will play a part in whether or not an individual gets cancer. I assume some mutation played a part in mine since my doctors can't find any obvious causes considering my young age.
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