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An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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post #10

I'd say welcome to China, but let's be realistic. America offers plenty of opportunities to get locked up for 24 hours for breaking selectively enforced laws (protest anything lately?) and then perhaps even worse for resisting arrest.

In Missouri you get fined for having mismatched blinds, and not having money to pay that fine will get you into court/ private prison.

It makes sense that the "show me" state would prefer not to have any blinds at all.

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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post #10

I'd say welcome to China, but let's be realistic. America offers plenty of opportunities to get locked up for 24 hours for breaking selectively enforced laws (protest anything lately?) and then perhaps even worse for resisting arrest.

In Missouri you get fined for having mismatched blinds, and not having money to pay that fine will get you into court/ private prison.

How does anything like that ever become law? Or are you just winding us up?

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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post #14

What is ambiguous about drugs being illegal in almost every country on the planet (with a handful of exceptions)? Just because the police doesn't catch all the murderers doesn't make murder legal. That's crazy logic.

The ambiguous part is the "X is illegal, but everyone openly does X all of the time, and the police don't seem to care... until they do" way of doing things. This applies to everything from the "unlicensed gathering" to the drug use to the (seemingly) inconsistent punishment for the drug use.

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Missouri you get fined for having mismatched blinds, and not having money to pay that fine will get you into court/ private prison.

How does anything like that ever become law? Or are you just winding us up?

Usually, it's a HOA that levies the fines, and then takes the person to court for failing to pay. The court orders payment, and has jailed some for "Contempt of Court" when they fail to do so.

I hadn't heard the blinds version, but a lawn care version made its way onto a "Penn and Tellers Bullshit" episode.

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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post #24
post #14

What is ambiguous about drugs being illegal in almost every country on the planet (with a handful of exceptions)? Just because the police doesn't catch all the murderers doesn't make murder legal. That's crazy logic.

The ambiguous part is the "X is illegal, but everyone openly does X all of the time, and the police don't seem to care... until they do" way of doing things. This applies to everything from the "unlicensed gathering" to the drug use to the (seemingly) inconsistent punishment for the drug use.

Probably different drugs used - not necessarily inconsistent or arbitrary.

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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post #10

I'd say welcome to China, but let's be realistic. America offers plenty of opportunities to get locked up for 24 hours for breaking selectively enforced laws (protest anything lately?) and then perhaps even worse for resisting arrest.

In Missouri you get fined for having mismatched blinds, and not having money to pay that fine will get you into court/ private prison.

Citation needed

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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Im not sure i understand why this is a big deal. As the guy said, it was designed to send a message. As far as drugs, youd have to be insane to do drugs in china. The laws on drugs are really harsh. As for the reason, presumably the organizer hadnt paid the right bribes.

Re: An Expat Has Time to Reflect, Now That the Party’s Over

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand your point. Not every speeder in the US are caught. Would you say the police doing temporary crackdowns is not a good thing? We should celebrate the police here for doing a good job trying to uphold law and order. Perhaps if they had more resources they could go after the other cases of lawbreaking mentioned, not as part of the main story, in the article.

> I don't really understand your point. The point is the inconsistent enforcement of laws. And you can be assured that if someone was wealthy enough, the laws don't apply to them. I think that's what the author was talking about when he said 25 people who had tested positive for drugs were let go and not held. They were probably connected somehow, or paid a bribe. China is an incredibly corrupt country where bribes a…

> ...25 people who had tested positive for drugs were let go and not held. They were probably connected somehow, or paid a bribe.

There are plenty of perfectly rational reasons why one might test positive for drugs but not be held.

In the US, at least, your levels must be high enough that they are unambiguous when factoring in margin of measurement error, but any amount is enough to get a warrant or have just cause to search your person/vehicle.

Alternatively, I take a prescription medication which causes me to test positive (hilariously high actually) on some drug tests. I carry my prescription and doctor's note on a prescription pad whenever I travel, and it's not that uncommon.

Jumping straight to corruption is unfairly stereotyping China, which, though it may have a problem, has many more honest cops/prosecutors than dirty ones.

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