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From Chrome Apps to the Web

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Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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So does this mean Chrome Remote Desktop is going to be a Chrome OS exclusive by early 2017?

They will probably port that, and Hangouts, Google Drive and others, to extensions, I think.

ServiceWorkers allows installing apps on Chrome or on the desktop so hangouts and drive could use it. Not so sure about ssh and what's going to happen to NaCl.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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Websites with hardware access? what could possibly go wrong? Browsers already are a overly complex security nightmare. Moreover the recent example of this stupid but rather simple battery API has shown us several, some more and some less obvious ways of how it can be abused. But sure Google will implement WebUSB and all sort of other shit they may imagine, the others will follow as always. In the end the browser will…

What's the alternative? If an app needs such functionality to work and it cannot work within a browser, the user will have to install a native app which aren't nearly as well sandboxed right now (Windows, Mac, Linux).

> > Websites with hardware access?

> the alternative? [...] install a native app which aren't nearly as well sandboxed right now (Windows, Mac, Linux).

err, the sandboxing works because web APIs don't already expose things which are suggested to be exposed here. Exposing them will break that "sandbox", to a certain (major) degree, atleast.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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The article mentions using Electron or NW.js if you want to continue building apps on web technologies that need deeper platform access. Is there a reason that those are worse options than Chrome apps?

It's possible but it's not an easy switch. And god help you if you have to mix native code with Electron. Getting a node-gyp toolchain spun up on Windows is a complete and total nightmare. Add Electron and its very specific version of Node into the mix (which totally confused node-gyp) and it's really awful.

It used to be hard, but when you have tried it last time? These days its as simple as hitting.

    npm install --global node-gyp
    npm install --global --production windows-build-tools

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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This is going to be really annoying since hardware access from HTML5 is still very rough and not even standardized. Stuff like talking to a serial port isn't even on the radar (so good luck programming a board like BBC micro:bit, Arduino, etc. without a native app), and efforts like WebUSB are still extremely early and not even a full standard. I feel like the product managers making this decision are completely obli…

Websites with hardware access? what could possibly go wrong? Browsers already are a overly complex security nightmare. Moreover the recent example of this stupid but rather simple battery API has shown us several, some more and some less obvious ways of how it can be abused. But sure Google will implement WebUSB and all sort of other shit they may imagine, the others will follow as always. In the end the browser will…

Reading your comment on a Chromebook that hasn't failed me once including all the others i have had makes me scratch my head. If anything this, to me, seems the most secure approach compared to what's out there. Doesn't it make to you? A secure, lean Linux hosting a lean UI layer that sandboxes web and native apps.

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This is going to be really annoying since hardware access from HTML5 is still very rough and not even standardized. Stuff like talking to a serial port isn't even on the radar (so good luck programming a board like BBC micro:bit, Arduino, etc. without a native app), and efforts like WebUSB are still extremely early and not even a full standard. I feel like the product managers making this decision are completely obli…

Did you place a bet on this technology? Tell us about it.

I did, I wanted a multi-platform GUI with USB access for my milling machine software.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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This is going to be really annoying since hardware access from HTML5 is still very rough and not even standardized. Stuff like talking to a serial port isn't even on the radar (so good luck programming a board like BBC micro:bit, Arduino, etc. without a native app), and efforts like WebUSB are still extremely early and not even a full standard. I feel like the product managers making this decision are completely obli…

To be fair, did many people actually place a significant 'bet' on Chrome Web Apps? Even from the beginning that wouldnt sound like a very wise bet.

Just last December, Open Whisper Systems announced Signal Desktop, a Chrome Web App[0]. I am not sure how significant you would consider the Web to a messaging platform, but most of their competition has a Web app by now.

[0]: https://whispersystems.org/blog/signal-desktop/

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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Did you place a bet on this technology? Tell us about it.

I did, I wanted a multi-platform GUI with USB access for my milling machine software.

there are workarounds, for usb device over wifi there is this: https://github.com/cnlohr/espusb if you are hardcore enough it is possible to add usb host support too

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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After thinking some more... Maybe Play Store for Windows and Play Store for OS X will launch real soon... as Play Store for Chrome. In Chrome OS they're currently adding the Play Store to select hardware including x86 laptops using ... "container" technology. In Chrome OS these apps will start to stop being available in about a year. In Chrome on Windows and Mac they are losing access to these apps, the vast vast vas…

Yes. The browser is already like second OS. So if Google provides the Android API through Chrome. And if Chrome comes with PlayStore, then a lot of people will be able to run Android apps on Windows 7+, macOS and Linux. And as a next step, people will ask themself why not just buy a notebook with Android and run 1-2 legacy apps via Wine or whatever. And the new announced (on Github) Fuchsia OS that may replace some r…

All the desktop OS vendors have to do is allow you to run native apps inside a tabbed, browser-like shell alongside websites.
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