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Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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It depends on who you ask. The narrative here is of precarious terror. Other people will have a different story.

Seattle attracts a lot of people, and they often have sticker shock because they didn't do enough research. And, a lot of people feel entitled to live in the hippest neighborhoods very cheap.

That said. The writer needs to contextualize this. In 2001, the year I went to college, the Twin Towers fell and a plane crashed into the Pentagon: being someone who had read some history, I was sure that day that, attackers being intelligent, a wave of guerilla attacks would go off against major military and civilian targets. Surprisingly, that didn't happen.

In 1983, deep fear of the USSR was playing out.

In 1974, the US was in Vietnam. Many people were dying constantly, and it was on the TV nightly.

In 1968, campuses rioted. Bewilderment set in over the nation.

In 1961, the Soviets/East Germans put up the Berlin Wall.

In 1948, the Cold War started.

In 1939, WW2 started.

In 1932, FDR became president, in a profound economic situation far worse than what we've seen since.

I could go on. The future is scary. But since it happens regardless of our personal choices, our best bet is to keep a stiff upper lip, our chin up, and wade into the stream, keeping a weather eye out to maximize our luck surface.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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Or maybe stop reading news like that and enjoy life in one of the safest times and countries with life expectancies at an all-time high in the entire human history. Take a step back and look at things on a larger scale. Don't nurture your neuroticism and anxiety.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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I love how everyone thinks that issues were clear in the past. Racism, anti-war efforts -- we still have those going on today. And if you think that they're any less clear now than they were then, you have your head in the sand. If you think that we don't have issues that need action now -- police brutality, women's rights, etc. -- then you probably wouldn't have been a part of the desegregation movement in the early 60s either.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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These feelings are not unique to our generation -- they are part of becoming aware enough of everything around you. I would agree though that most of my friends don't believe they're building a future for themselves. Several friends in their mid-thirties don't have retirement accounts because they strongly believe it supports an unethical economy. The idea that the nation seemed more "stable" in the 70's is an insane…

Saving money to be able to survive when you can't work anymore is unethical?

You can save without putting that money in an IRA/401k and the like.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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The 70's were seen as stable because no American's knew anything about what was happening worldwide. Being connected to pretty much any human on the planet is a really new concept, what we call our "community" has grown exponentially in size, distance, and diversity in the last decade. The world has always been this scary, now we're just paying attention.

> The world has always been this scary, now we're just paying attention.

I see this a lot, and I'm never convinced. Something like the "flash crash" was impossible a decade ago, much less a century. I wouldn't claim that the world has gotten worse, but the capacity for rapid, unpredictable change has never been higher.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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Another article that bemoans the fate of Millennials, compares them with the Baby Boomers....and somehow ignores the fact that there was a generation between them. Gen-Xers, anyone?

Funny how this is taking on a family dynamic:

Baby-Boomers: Eldest child, assertive and confident, though takes for granted the opportunities it's been provided by being the eldest, feels the younger kids would be more successful if they just followed their example.

Gen-Xers: Middle child, mostly forgotten about, more involved in taking care of the youngest.

Mellenials: Youngest child, brash and open, generally optimistic, though sometimes hit hard by the harshness of the world.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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Another article that bemoans the fate of Millennials, compares them with the Baby Boomers....and somehow ignores the fact that there was a generation between them. Gen-Xers, anyone?

Also, the article kept mentioning the 90K salary number -- not sure why the article presented such great prospects and had a doom-and-gloom outlook for the people. To me it looked like the people profiled in the article seemed to have varied, fulfilling lives....maybe I am not getting something.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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A "broken political system", please. Like Syria? Most of the Arab Spring? Even Brexit? There are people literally laying down their lives to get an opportunity to participate in such a "broken" system as ours in the US. If you don't like the system, work to change it. In the US at least you won't go to jail for doing that. Good grief!

As near as I can tell, the complaints of 'broken' come from people who don't participate. People who participate somehow seem to find ways to get some change in their desired direction.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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Another article that bemoans the fate of Millennials, compares them with the Baby Boomers....and somehow ignores the fact that there was a generation between them. Gen-Xers, anyone?

They're the ones who mortgaged our future and blew up the global economy for short term gain.

They're also the ones writing these articles.

Re: Debt. Terror. Politics. To Seattle Millennials, the Future Looks Scary

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These feelings are not unique to our generation -- they are part of becoming aware enough of everything around you. I would agree though that most of my friends don't believe they're building a future for themselves. Several friends in their mid-thirties don't have retirement accounts because they strongly believe it supports an unethical economy. The idea that the nation seemed more "stable" in the 70's is an insane…

Saving money to be able to survive when you can't work anymore is unethical?

Oh I don't think it's unethical. I do think our bankers act unethically, but I still have a retirement account. My statement was that people feel so strongly about this that I know multiple people that don't save money in retirement accounts.
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