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The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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To me, this manifesto has little more than historical value. It's more an expression of generic adolescent angst rather than of hacker culture. It's a poor "manifesto" too. What exactly are the aims of The Hacker? "Exploring", "Outsmarting you", and "judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like". Platitudes, really, if you set aside the emotional outbursts surrounding them. The Jargon File offer…

Mary Sue would like a word with you.

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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post #13

To me, this manifesto has little more than historical value. It's more an expression of generic adolescent angst rather than of hacker culture. It's a poor "manifesto" too. What exactly are the aims of The Hacker? "Exploring", "Outsmarting you", and "judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like". Platitudes, really, if you set aside the emotional outbursts surrounding them. The Jargon File offer…

To be fair, I was pretty damn angsty at the time :) Always exciting to see this pop up someplace new. It's being translated into Polish for a textbook this year as well.

How did you feel about it showing up in the critically acclaimed film, Hackers? That was my first exposure to it.

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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Always a fun read. The Hacker Manifesto reminds us that computing culture stands at a crossroads: between hobbyists and academia, between bedroom programmers and industry, between hackers, and, well, hackers, although both appear on either side of the fence.

While sinister and angsty in tone, this is ultimately a tale of someone discovering the wonders of computing, much as I, and many others did - although I never broke into anything, save my iPod.

From the FSF to MS to the demoscene, we're all computing, and many of us have a spark of feelings this piece evokes - a natural curiosity, a desire to push the boundaries, to see what's possible, and a bit of rebeliousness. It's what separates the hackers (both kinds) and the hobbyists and the wannabes, from those who don't have that feeling, the people for whom this is a 9-5 job, who grind out StrategyObjectFactoryFactorySingletonFactories, and when they get home want to think about anything but programming.

In short, that spark is what separates those who really care about computing from those who just want to get their job done and forget about it.

As usual with any broad, sweeping statements I make, I may be wrong.

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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post #13

To me, this manifesto has little more than historical value. It's more an expression of generic adolescent angst rather than of hacker culture. It's a poor "manifesto" too. What exactly are the aims of The Hacker? "Exploring", "Outsmarting you", and "judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like". Platitudes, really, if you set aside the emotional outbursts surrounding them. The Jargon File offer…

To be fair, I was pretty damn angsty at the time :) Always exciting to see this pop up someplace new. It's being translated into Polish for a textbook this year as well.

This was actually read at one of our local events here after Aaron Swartz died. https://vimeo.com/57438877

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I was pretty damn angsty at the time :) Always exciting to see this pop up someplace new. It's being translated into Polish for a textbook this year as well.

How did you feel about it showing up in the critically acclaimed film, Hackers? That was my first exposure to it.

Pleased, because I think I'm the answer to the trivia question "What was the first email address to ever appear in a major movie credit roll". Sad, because, damn, is that a bad movie.

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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Excellent advice. ESR's ideology is vile, he tries to inject it into everything, and he has no shame. He regularly judges and bullies people on the color of their skin, gender, nationality and religion, and he's certainly not qualified as a "hacker".

https://twitter.com/iaincollins/status/719687723590762496

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TIL ESR is a racist white supremacist and his neo-pagan self description is a dog whistle (see thread for more)

https://twitter.com/tqbf/status/719621538257903616

https://www.dropbox.com/s/002k6yy1mzqkd70/Screenshot%202016-...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Russ_Nelson#Blacks_are_la...

http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/gun-linux

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did you feel about it showing up in the critically acclaimed film, Hackers? That was my first exposure to it.

Pleased, because I think I'm the answer to the trivia question "What was the first email address to ever appear in a major movie credit roll". Sad, because, damn, is that a bad movie.

I think it's a great bit of campy cinema. It's like Wet Hot American Summer with ravers and 90s cyberculture. It's a lot better today than it was when it was made. Instead of lame it feels charmingly funny and nostalgic.

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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post #13

To me, this manifesto has little more than historical value. It's more an expression of generic adolescent angst rather than of hacker culture. It's a poor "manifesto" too. What exactly are the aims of The Hacker? "Exploring", "Outsmarting you", and "judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like". Platitudes, really, if you set aside the emotional outbursts surrounding them. The Jargon File offer…

To be fair, I was pretty damn angsty at the time :) Always exciting to see this pop up someplace new. It's being translated into Polish for a textbook this year as well.

Where else can you get a reply from the Hacker that wrote the Hackers Manifesto.

Re: The Hacker's Manifesto (1986)

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To me, this manifesto has little more than historical value. It's more an expression of generic adolescent angst rather than of hacker culture. It's a poor "manifesto" too. What exactly are the aims of The Hacker? "Exploring", "Outsmarting you", and "judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like". Platitudes, really, if you set aside the emotional outbursts surrounding them. The Jargon File offer…

I'd say a major point of a manifesto is to inspire people which it clearly did.
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