Great, phones will be 2 times thinner /s
USB type C is identical from both sides, if we remove one side, it could be half thinner /s
New batteries could make phones, drones, and electric cars last twice as long
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#12This looks great and with such an early release date it does seem the tech is not far away. Interesting that they are making the batteries and not licensing the tech considering it works with existing manufacturing technologies. I wonder how much extra cost if any for this increased energy density
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#13Great, phones will be 2 times thinner /s
No, the next gen phones will need twice the power anyway, so no change in size.
They will probably have real-time rendered 3D graphics in the user interface, and more expensive signal processing of their sensors, because of higher resolution of the sensors (especially regarding the camera resolution). And more sensors in total.
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#14Great, phones will be 2 times thinner /s
USB type C is identical from both sides, if we remove one side, it could be half thinner /s
And then one of the biggest selling points of USB type C is moot - namely its longitudinal symmetry, which allows to plug it in without caring about orientation.
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#15It seems like we're always hearing about the next big thing in battery technology, but they seem to stay in research forever, and never hit the consumer market. The most exciting part of this, is that they say the'll be in consumer devices early 2017. I'd love to have one in my quadcopter!
Note that having a compressed energy ready for rapid release is exactly equal to handling an explosive in your laptop :) There are a lot of experimental batteries that have like 5x capacity of the current Li-ion ones, but melt and explode when heated or crushed, which makes them effectively useless. This is one of the hardest problems in high-capacity batteries - to avoid "rapid unscheduled heat dissipation" and the…
In that case, maybe what's actually needed is not battery capacity, but quicker and more convenient recharging systems?
Say solar, kinetic, or wireless charging stations spread throughout a city? Maybe incorporate some kind of "witricity" into the next WiFi proposal? If stuff can be recharged while it's being used, or within seconds, it shouldn't matter how much capacity the battery has.
Re: New batteries could make phones, drones, and electric cars last twice as long
#16It seems like we're always hearing about the next big thing in battery technology, but they seem to stay in research forever, and never hit the consumer market. The most exciting part of this, is that they say the'll be in consumer devices early 2017. I'd love to have one in my quadcopter!
Progress in batteries has come a long way in the last 20 years. It's one of the reasons your quadcopter is even possible.
Undoubtedly, but my impression is that it's been more of a gradual refinement of the same technology, rather than a sudden 2x improvement as claimed here.
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#17Great, phones will be 2 times thinner /s
No, the next gen phones will need twice the power anyway, so no change in size. They will probably have real-time rendered 3D graphics in the user interface, and more expensive signal processing of their sensors, because of higher resolution of the sensors (especially regarding the camera resolution). And more sensors in total. /s
> They will probably have real-time rendered 3D graphics in the user interface
They already do.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
USB type C is identical from both sides, if we remove one side, it could be half thinner /s
And then one of the biggest selling points of USB type C is moot - namely its longitudinal symmetry, which allows to plug it in without caring about orientation.
That's the joke.
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#19Great, phones will be 2 times thinner /s
No, the next gen phones will need twice the power anyway, so no change in size. They will probably have real-time rendered 3D graphics in the user interface, and more expensive signal processing of their sensors, because of higher resolution of the sensors (especially regarding the camera resolution). And more sensors in total. /s
True anecdote from the early smartphone days: we were always having problems with rendering performance, but the next platform promised to have 4x faster CPU.
Later, it sunk in that the new screen had 5x as many pixels...
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Progress in batteries has come a long way in the last 20 years. It's one of the reasons your quadcopter is even possible.
Do you know of anywhere that charts improvements in commercially available batteries? I have a similar impression to OP, but only based on anecdotes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/29mxnz/the_pro...
"2010 (early) Max. capacity 2600mAh (This has existed before)
2011 (early) Max. capacity 2900mAh/3000mAh
2012 (early) Max. capacity 3100mAh
2012 (mid) Max. capacity 3400mAh
2013 (late) Max. capacity 3600mAh (Are not yet common)"
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3600mAh is apparently still the max capacity available.