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Low-income students can soon get federal aid to attend coding schools

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Re: Low-income students can soon get federal aid to attend coding schools

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I think this is a step in the right direction to address the issue of computer science education and/or coding classes only being accessible to kids from privileged backgrounds. Ultimately, if this is successful (and I know I'm wishing too much at this point), it can lead to greater diversity in the tech workforce or even in academia.

Why in the fuck is diversity a "thing"? Algorithimic and behavioral diversity maybe. But this bullshit kumbaya bullshit where team composition has to reflect a skin color ratio that's suitable for an ad exec's eye is fucking worthless. I've been "lower income". I've been fucking homeless. You're training technical monkey to do technical jobs. No problem with that but don't fucking be "greater diversity blah blah blah…

Proponents of diversity engage in non-Bayesian updating whereby if a non-diverse company/city/person does well, they update their prior that the system is rigged, but if a diverse company/city/person does well update their prior that diversity has economic benefits.

Re: Low-income students can soon get federal aid to attend coding schools

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Oh great more developer puppy mills, except this time secured by the federal government! What a great handout.

And chances are the costs of these schools will inflate now that there's free money on the table, just like with regular universities.

Yes, that's my exact concern.

The good ones will do well for a while until the bad ones get better at marketing. As they get better at marketing, more dollars will go to them and draw people who don't have the aptitude to be successful in the field. Then those people will - rightfully! - be pissed when they don't get $100k+ jobs and demand that "something be done about this!" And then the good schools will get screwed.

I'd rather see a salary-based payback program where a candidate pays back X% over the next N years, up to $Y.

That might motivate the schools to help in placement and encourage them to teach how to stay relevant beyond the JS framework of the week.

Re: Low-income students can soon get federal aid to attend coding schools

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Why does the government think software development jobs can be done by the equivalent of people who have gone to a trade school for one semester? I don't see the government pushing finance career or lawyer boot camps. I wonder how the DOE even made the decision of which boot camps to partner with.

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Why does the government think software development jobs can be done by the equivalent of people who have gone to a trade school for one semester? I don't see the government pushing finance career or lawyer boot camps. I wonder how the DOE even made the decision of which boot camps to partner with.

Cool, can you point me to some lawyer bootcamps, this whole time I thought that was a heavily regulated industry that required degrees and a bar exam to be qualified. Really stoked to let my wife know she didn't need to take those CPA exams to practice too.

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Why does the government think software development jobs can be done by the equivalent of people who have gone to a trade school for one semester? I don't see the government pushing finance career or lawyer boot camps. I wonder how the DOE even made the decision of which boot camps to partner with.

Cool, can you point me to some lawyer bootcamps, this whole time I thought that was a heavily regulated industry that required degrees and a bar exam to be qualified. Really stoked to let my wife know she didn't need to take those CPA exams to practice too.

My understanding is you can actually take the bar exam in several states without having attended law school. Regulations can always be changed, I don't see groups or the government pushing to liberalize training requirements and allow boot camps to train someone to take these tests.
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