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Post by daveloyall » Thu, Aug 18, 2016, 8:42 PM UTC

KirinDave wrote: post #356

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Imagine trying? Sir/Ma'am, I have done so. When boxed in-between the fearsome foursome--`bash`, `sed`, `awk`, and `emacs`--every problem involving tabular data (2D) is trivial. Hm, I'll give a shout-out to `sort` and `uniq`, too! When you go 3D, you might need to bring in `join`. But anyway, you'd use find ~/bin /usr/bin -mtime 1 -executable -type f -ls ..to provide `ls -la` output for every executable, ordinary file…

Most users do not find awk trivial. Most people basically use it for {print $colnum} when simple columns are available. PowerShell's integrated query syntax that you can patch into various things is a lot more consistent and reasonable. It is difficult to imagine volunteering people into a world of awk, sed and cut with good intentions in one's heart.

Post by cbHXBY1D » Thu, Aug 18, 2016, 8:49 PM UTC

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This is why I find PowerShell to be an answer to a question nobody asked. If bash/zsh isn't cutting it for you, drop into something like Python, Ruby or Perl to do the heavy lifting. PowerShell will never accumulate a library as comprehensive as what any of those three have, each has had decades to accumulate packages of all kinds, and more are still being added. It's odd, but not surprising given their history of "N…

lately i use nodejs and have replaced the cmd tools with node modules. It is more verbose then piping shell commands but easier to understand and the same script can be reused across platforms.

Post by mbrumlow » Thu, Aug 18, 2016, 8:55 PM UTC

haberman wrote: post #453

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I find that to be the issue. You are considering it just RAW text when it is actually formatted text that has been parsable for years with common unix command line tools. It not being in the format you consider a structured object does not mean it's not a object or even parsable. If you are using ad hoc regex I suspect you are not using all the tools available to you. I feel like Kernighan and Pike do a much better j…

> You are considering it just RAW text when it is actually formatted text that has been parsable for years with common unix command line tools. Parsing command output with sed/awk/etc (ie. "common unix command line tools") is absolutely an ad hoc parser. Let me give you an example that I recently ran into. I have a tool that parses the output of "readelf -sW", which dumps symbols and their sizes. The output normally…

           typedef struct {
               uint32_t      st_name;
               unsigned char st_info;
               unsigned char st_other;
               uint16_t      st_shndx;
               Elf64_Addr    st_value;
               uint64_t      st_size;
           } Elf64_Sym;

Post by fsloth » Thu, Aug 18, 2016, 8:57 PM UTC

vardump wrote: post #409

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Java seemed to have a lot more options for deployments and monitoring for a long time. More advanced 3rd party libraries in general. It had simply been around longer and thus had those tools available. Now that C# has been standard for a while almost all of those tools have a C# equivalent. As a .NET dev I'd actually argue that the things available to C# now are actually better (especially Visual Studio), but that's…

> ...things available to C# now are actually better (especially Visual Studio), but that's certainly biased. You call Visual Studio good? Have you actually used it? VS2015 is painfully slow, and yes, I've installed all of the updates and I have no plugins or such. Heck, even Eclipse feels zippy compared to it. Something as simple as finding next text search match takes about a second. Changing to a different source c…

Post by GVIrish » Thu, Aug 18, 2016, 9:04 PM UTC

Grishnakh wrote: post #373

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It is about Microsoft being a neutral player in a multiple platform world. Microsoft want people using their tools as it means they are more likely to use their platforms and services. Be it PowerShell on Linux or Bash on Windows or VSCode on macOS they want to make the best tools in the hope that it will push companies/developers towards Azure/SQL/Cloud as that is where the future for MS is. Windows is on life suppo…

>Windows is on life support and they know this. How is Windows "on life support"? Desktop/laptop computers are not going anywhere, at least until they invent some kind of VR (and no, mobile OSes like iOS are not suitable for doing real work and managing data in a networked environment the way desktop OSes are). Windows still has at least 90% of the OS market. People and businesses could change to an alternative, but…