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Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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We badly need an alternative to Nvidia/CUDA for deep learning... but realistically, if Intel wants to make headway in the deep learning market, it must offer hardware that can not only compete on performance with Nvidia, but also work out-of-the-box (that is, without requiring lots of one-off tinkering and tweaking) with popular deep/machine learning frameworks like TensorFlow, Caffe, Torch, and Theano. There is a lo…

I agree, AMD is working on making it easy to port CUDA[1], which still doesn't provide a strict alternative, but it's something http://wccftech.com/amd-cuda-compilercompatibility-layer-ann...

Google also released GPUCC (http://research.google.com/pubs/pub45226.html), and got CUDA support into upstream clang.

LLVM also has an AMD GPU backend, and says this thing is built on clang/llvm.

So i suspect it's based on that support :)

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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I wish they had a range that was affordable for a hobbyist. You can buy a cheap Nvidia card to "get your feet wet". I would like to play with these things.

Why not use Google's platform, which runs on their new custom chips (Tensor Processing Unit)?

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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Nice, but how is this going to fit with Nervana? Also more than hardware how do Intel's libraries compare with CuDNN? At the end of the day ease of use and software support matter along with the hardware.

Dude, they bought Nervana like yesterday.

Nervana has its own silicon, but I doubt they will tape out.

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, AMD is working on making it easy to port CUDA[1], which still doesn't provide a strict alternative, but it's something http://wccftech.com/amd-cuda-compilercompatibility-layer-ann...

Google also released GPUCC ( http://research.google.com/pubs/pub45226.html ), and got CUDA support into upstream clang. LLVM also has an AMD GPU backend, and says this thing is built on clang/llvm. So i suspect it's based on that support :)

There is a Nvidia Maxwell assembler https://github.com/NervanaSystems/maxas

But yeah this isn't production ready

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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We badly need an alternative to Nvidia/CUDA for deep learning... but realistically, if Intel wants to make headway in the deep learning market, it must offer hardware that can not only compete on performance with Nvidia, but also work out-of-the-box (that is, without requiring lots of one-off tinkering and tweaking) with popular deep/machine learning frameworks like TensorFlow, Caffe, Torch, and Theano. There is a lo…

This is also on upstream projects not to lock themselves into CUDA. Yes, it's great, but everyone suffers when there's only one supported API. Even more so when it's closed and locked to a specific vendor, as CUDA is.

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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I wish they had a range that was affordable for a hobbyist. You can buy a cheap Nvidia card to "get your feet wet". I would like to play with these things.

Why not use Google's platform, which runs on their new custom chips (Tensor Processing Unit)?

Why use it, if it locks you in?

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use Google's platform, which runs on their new custom chips (Tensor Processing Unit)?

Why use it, if it locks you in?

If you're a hobbyist, why would you care about lock in?

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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We badly need an alternative to Nvidia/CUDA for deep learning... but realistically, if Intel wants to make headway in the deep learning market, it must offer hardware that can not only compete on performance with Nvidia, but also work out-of-the-box (that is, without requiring lots of one-off tinkering and tweaking) with popular deep/machine learning frameworks like TensorFlow, Caffe, Torch, and Theano. There is a lo…

How many people are actually deploying to production though? It seems like its mostly research papers and enthusiasts out there in the wild yet.

Are we talking startups? A lot of startups know python so that would make sense...I'd love to see some actual stories though.

Re: Intel Announces Knights Mill: A Xeon Phi for Deep Learning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why use it, if it locks you in?

If you're a hobbyist, why would you care about lock in?

Because you don't have control over what Google does. They may kill TPU altogether leaving your work irrelevant.
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